On Mon, 2011-03-07 at 13:49 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> This looks interesting, but the issue is complex, and at least to
> me, the benefits are not clear.
The benefits are IMHO:
- making setups possible which do not work at all currently (e.g. lvm on
top of cryptsetup)

- "unifying" the way how the different block-device packages (nbd,
mdadm, lvm2, cryptsetup, etc.) handle initramfs, init-scripts, etc.

- allowing clean shutdown, which is currently not possible if the rootfs
is on md/dm-crypt/etc.
Also allowing things like securely shutting the system down (which is
currently not possible with dm-crypt.
Especially as block device barriers are a complex topic, I'd also feel
more safe if everything got stopped cleanly before shudown/reboot.

- solving other problems on the way,... e.g. lvm2 cannot boot as it's
initramfs-scripts are broken (although the maintainer ignores this)


> (I never found out about this until now)
^^ I posted this once with some replies on d-d.


> It's just very brittle and thus dangerous. Adding a few kilobytes to
> the initramfs is a lesser concern, isn't it?
Well of course,... nevertheless, keeping it small should be a long term goal =)

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