On January 20, 2011, Modestas Vainius wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On penktadienis 21 Sausis 2011 02:59:17 Gordon Haverland wrote:
> > On January 20, 2011, you wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > On penktadienis 21 Sausis 2011 00:30:35 Gordon Haverland 
wrote:
> > > > Running amarok from the command line, with or without
> > > > --debug doesn't seem to offer much.  I did run it under
> > > > strace, and an edited version of the strace is below.
> > > 
> > > Try running
> > > 
> > > $ kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental
> > > 
> > > and start amarok again.
> > 
> > I do not have amarok source here.  Is building amarok from
> > source necessary to track this down?  (I do have disk space,
> > but I have never built any component of KDE from source
> > before.)
> 
> That command has nothing to do with building from source. It
> expands as K-BUILD-SYstem-COnfiguration-CAche. Just run it
> from the X terminal as your user.

That command looks like it is involved with building from source.

In any event, I ran that command from a shell, and then asked KDE 
to load amarok.  It loaded.

The window which came up was very small, and all squashed into the 
upper left quadrant.

The first time I tried to start a song (from the saved playlist), 
amarok crashed.  Starting amarok again, and trying to start the 
same song seems to have worked (at least, it didn't crash).

I had noticed updates to KDE (unstable) a couple of weeks ago, and 
not installed them.  Lately (1 week ago?) I noticed that updates 
to amarok were available.  Today, amarok stalled, and so I thought 
updating amarok was something to do.  Even though I see a lot of 
KDE has updates available, I did not update anything of KDE other 
than amarok.  (And from dependencies, nothing of kde was updated.)

But in general, anything having to do with GUIs that I normally 
use (which is mostly KDE), I will not install updates for at least 
1 week.  In the past, I would install an update, and a few hours 
later there was another update to the same packages.  And this 
behavior seems to be consistent.  I am not looking for exercise in 
typing 'apt-get install ...'.  If somebody doesn't know if their 
updated package works, perhaps there is some method they can use 
which doesn't involve a zillion people downloading and installing 
changes which break packages?

In general, I am willing to download and install upgrades.  It 
bugs me to heck when I see certain families of packages require 2 
or 3 updates immediatly afterwards.  More often than not, it seems 
to be some simple problem.  Which to me seems to be I have not 
installed this new package on my own machine.

But, I am not a Debian maintainer, and I don't know what sorts of 
problems come up with updating packages.

I do wish you the best.  I would much rather spend time figuring 
out how atoms work in structures designed by engineers (which is 
my area of expertice).

Gord



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