On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 09:24:35PM +0200, Emmanuel Bouthenot wrote:

So sympa needs _some_ value for cafile, and ca-certificates provides a sane default for _most_ situations.

The Recommends: stanza is _exactly intended for such situations.

There was a long-time bug in apt-get to wrongly treating Recommends like Suggests. It was a bug and it has been solved. What is left is the wrong assumption amongst those used to the old wrong behaviour of apt-get. You need to un-learn that :-)
I disagree:

I've spotted the bug because on all the Debian machines I administer (especially servers), I explicitly disable the installation of Suggests and Recommends.

After installing SYMPA in a fresh Debian, I wondered why listmanager failed to start. I had to trace the daemon to understand the problem.

Hence SYMPA is not fully usable if Recommends are disabled. I think that it's not reasonable.


What do you think?

The package is not expected to be "fully usable" when Recommends are ignored.

You disabled the auto-pilot. Now steer manually. Particularly: Now create that file missing since you chose to not have that file provided by a package but would rather create it yourself.

So no, you did not (yet) convince me that this is a real bug.


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