On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 08:47:45AM +0200, Julien Valroff wrote:
> Hi Ron,
> 
> Le dimanche 16 mai 2010 à 00:14 +0930, Ron a écrit :
> > Hi Rodolphe,
> > 
> > Thanks for the patches, but now I'm a little bit confused,
> > have you actually tested this with dovecot 1.2.11?
> > If so, what backend are you using?
> > 
> > I prepared packages for the 1.3 release last month, but it seems
> > that dovecot 1.2.11 has actually changed something this time that
> > will need more than just a recompile to keep up.
> > 
> > It builds and 'runs' ok, but any attempt to access an -antispam
> > managed folder will fail.  Upstream is aware of it, but has been
> > too busy to look into it, and I don't see anything new in upstream
> > git since we had that discussion...
> > 
> > So AFAICS, we're basically in the same boat still as we were then:
> > namely there isn't much point uploading 1.3 at this stage, if it
> > isn't going to work for people anyway...
> > 
> > ... unless this _is_ really working for you, in which case things are
> > more complicated, and I won't really be quite sure what to think or do
> > about this until we explain that too.
> 
> All my apologies, I have been able to enquire in depth about the
> situation, but I would like to confirm I am successfully using the 1.2
> version with dovecot 1.2.11. This is on Debian Lenny (backported
> packages) using the DSPAM backend.

I can confirm it still fails on sid as of a couple of days ago with
the SA backend, but that's a data point, cheers.

> I would be happy to give 1.3 packages a try if you consider it would be
> useful.

The 1.3 version doesn't change much and nothing related to this.

> As for the general issue, have you tried talking with dovecot
> maintainers and see whether they could integrate this in their package
> sources so that the plugin is rebuilt automatically?

That idea has been floated a couple of times (with the debian maintainers)
but nothing has come of it so far.  It doesn't fix this bug though, only
the ABI enforcement, so this is something of a showstopper for that being
a viable solution right now.  Merging it with upstream dovecot might be
a way to avoid both in future, but I'm not sure how receptive they are
to this idea ...  What I know so far is that the long term plan is to
stabilise the plugin interface, but I don't really know at this stage
when that is likely to actually happen either.

Scarcity of time for all involved is a large part of why this is moving
slowly right now, so if you have time to get involved on the dovecot
list to nut out a fix for both the short and long term problems here,
that may well be a productive thing to do.

Thanks,
Ron





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