On 12.07.2010 04:42, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
> Package: pm-utils
> Version: 1.3.0-2
> Severity: wishlist
> 
> pm-utils recommends radeontool. According to policy,
> 
>> The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together 
>> with this one in all but unusual installations.
> 
> This is clearly not the case for radeontool, since pm-utils is usually 
> used on systems without a Radeon card.

Well, radeon cards are very popular, but I get your point.

 More importantly, as the extended
> description says:
> 
>> WARNING: Radeontool code has not been completely audited and may 
>> contain bugs
>> that could damage your hardware. Use at your own risk.
> 
> (This warning is not transmitted to the administrator when pm-utils 
> causes the installation of radeontool.)
> 
> Also, according to http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Radeontool
> radeontool is obsolete. Finally, it's unclear how radeontool could 
> enhance pm-utils.

radeontool is used to apply certain quirks on radeon hardware on suspend/resume.
The idea behind the recommends is, that it is very hard for the user to find
out, why his system failed to resume because the radeontool package was not
installed.
That's why we initially decided to install radeontools by default alongside
pm-utils, as it is just a few kb. Please note, that radeontools is only run on
systems, which require, i.e. there is an entry of the system in the quirks db.

That said, with KMS, those quirks are no longer required.

Martin, given that the default Ubuntu und Debian kernels now ship with KMS for
radeon, I guess we could downgrade to suggests.
What do you think?

Michael



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