On dim., 2010-06-27 at 17:00 +0200, Christophe Lohr wrote: > Le 27/06/2010 16:25, Yves-Alexis Perez a écrit : > > The thing is (I don't know a lot about NM so I may say crap), “online” > > status is global, not per-interface. So either you're online, either > > you're not. The grey area where you're online on an interface not > > managed by NM is impossible to manage. So maybe NM shouldn't manage it, > > but if it does, it has to do it globally. > > This is a matter of semantic. What does it means "to be online"? > ... to be online with what? > Evo is a network client. So it has to be online with its servers (imap, > smtp, etc.). To check this status, it can do a ping, or try > imap/smtp/etc. connection. > > But Evo seems to check if the "global system is online" (why?)
Because you installed network-manager. > Does it means "there exists a network interface that is up"? (this is a > rather weak criteria) > If it want to know that, it just has to do a "ip link show up". Don't > ask to NM. > > > If you disagree, then don't > > use NM. (especially since “online” is fuzzy anyway, what if interface is > > up but you're on a non-routed network? what if you're routed but > > filtered?). > > > > If Evo is definitively incompatible with NM, I will make a choice > between the two ;-) It's not incompatible. You just seem to not use network-manager the way it's intended to. > I use NM to manage the wifi interface. It does well the job. For the 3G > interface, I have some scripts, out of the scope of NM. From time to > time, I also have a VPN, not managed by NM. > So, it's not a good idea to ask NM if I am online or not. If you don't like NM to be able to give a decision on online/offline status, don't use NM. That's all (and that's my latest mail, I already precised like hundred of mails ago that I didn't use NM and didn't care about it.) *Now*, I can understand that some people would like to, from time to time, override offline decision. That may be a bug, but your best bet is to open a bug *upstream* instead of here. Regards, -- Yves-Alexis
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