On 05/07/2010 02:08 AM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
On jeu., 2010-05-06 at 21:18 -0400, Dave Witbrodt wrote:
After selecting Applications->Settings->Appearance, and modifying the
"Default Font" on the Fonts tab, I have been using Liberation Sans
(11 pt) as my default font.
Occasionally, after logging out and back in, Xfce starts up without
honoring this selection of default font. (This has never yet happened
when first booting the machine, but only after logging out and back in.)
Some other font with a much smaller point size -- maybe the default for
Xfce if no config files are present in $HOME -- is sometimes used.
Is it a different *font* or only a different size? The only settings I
know about xfdesktop font settings is the size, so it'd help if we know
if it fallbacks to a whole different font or just the font size.
I agree: it would help to know that. It could just be the point size
that is wrong, or it could be BOTH the font and the point size. I
incorrectly implied above that I know that the font face is wrong, but I
stand corrected: I do not actually know that. These fonts all start
looking the same at very small point sizes!
Next time the bug occurs, I will try to find out -- but right now I'm
not sure how to get the info without causing Xfce to notice... and fix
itself.
If I
right-click, select Desktop Settings, click the Icons tab, then check
and uncheck the "Use custom font size" checkbox, Xfce realizes that it
is supposed to be using Liberation Sans. (That checkbox defaults to 12
pt, but when I uncheck it I get the desired Liberation Sans 11 pt.)
So at first, the checkbox is unchecked (but xfdesktop doesn't use
correct font settings), when you check it the *font* changes and when
you uncheck it the *size* changes, to switch back to the correct
settings (the ones chosen in xfce4-settings-manager).
Right... when the error occurs:
1) "Use custom font size" is unchecked (the setting shown defaults to
12pt, but is not being used)
2) When I check the box, the shown setting of 12 pt is honored. (The
font face is now clearly Liberation sans, if it wasn't before.)
3) Unchecking the box results in the desired font now, Liberation Sans 11pt.
This is merely an annoying, but obviously something is not working the
way it should and I thought I should report it as a bug. It is a great
mystery to me that my custom "default font" setting is always respected
the first time I log in, but randomly fails to be recognized if I log
out and back in again!
I have to admit I don't use much desktop icons, so I've never reproduced
that, but I'll try, stay tuned.
You mean "fonts" instead of "icons," right?
I wasn't sure whether to file this against 'xfdesktop4' or
'xfce4-settings', so I made the best guess I could. How can a user know
which Xfce package to file a bug against, with it split up into so many
separate pieces? (For example, there are missing icons in the
applications menu, and also in the dialog box when moving files from one
drive to another. Are these bugs in Xfce packages, or the icon theme
package?)
We try very hard to stay modular and avoir too much dependencies and
monolithism. So yeah, that's the price, components talk to each other
and sometime it's hard to say where does the problem lies. Just try to
guess good, and report, then we'll figure out ourselves and reassign if
needed. In that case, I think the potential problem lies in xfdesktop.
OK, thanks. I may have actually guessed correctly! :)
Something which might help is, when outside of Xfce, if you could try to
check ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-desktop.xml to
see the current setting of 'use-custom-font-size'. What we need would be
to check that setting when you know that, just after that, the bug will
trigger, but that might be a bit tricky.
Well, I discovered the bug only because I have been doing a lot of
testing of Mesa, Radeon drivers, X server, etc. When building new
upstream packages, I often have to shut down X, install the new package
versions, and restart X. It is during these cycles that the font issue
arises.
I am quite comfortable with the command line. I never thought of it
before, but I should be able to copy directories from $HOME to /tmp when
I notice the bug; then apply the workaround, copy the same directories,
and diff the two versions. Sorry this didn't occur to me before.
Thanks,
Dave W.
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