On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 02:17:07AM +0800, PCMan wrote:
> We're willing to fix this, but can you explain in more detail how this
> should work? Our developers don't use LTSP here so I have no idea how
> it should work.

thanks so much for looking into this! LXDE and LTSP already go quite well
together, and this would be a nice little improvement.


the basic idea is that the user running lxde is logged into the server
remotely. so lxde-logout is actually running on the server, not the physical
machine the user is sitting in front of. so if lxde-logout were to shutdown or
reboot, it would reboot the server the user is logged into, which is usually a
multi-user server... so that's the basic problem.

essentially, lxde-logout needs to detect this case somehow, and behave
differently when the user is logged in remotely.

if the user is logged in using LTSP, the environment variable LTSP_CLIENT will
be set, so this could be used to detect when lxde-logout needs to behave
differently.

the mechanism LTSP has started using is X's xatoms, otherwise known as
xproperties. this is used to set a flag in the X server that the machine the
user is logged in from can get information from the server, and vice-versa.

by setting the LTSP_LOGOUT_ACTION xproperty to either REBOOT or HALT, the
user's machine will respond appropriately on logout, as LTSP has some scripts
which check the value of LTSP_LOGOUT_ACTION. so for shutdown/reboot to work
properly in an LTSP environment, lxde-logout should do a few things differently
than usual:

1. present a logout button, no different than usual.

2. present a shutdown button, which sets the LTSP_LOGOUT_ACTION xproperty to
"HALT", and then logs the user out just like a normal logout.

3. present a reboot button, which sets the LTSP_LOGOUT_ACTION xproperty to
"REBOOT", and then logs the user out just like normal logout.

i'm not sure how to set xproperties from C code, but worst case it could simply
call the xprop binary from lxde-logout:

  xprop -root -f LTSP_LOGOUT_ACTION 8s -set LTSP_LOGOUT_ACTION HALT


please let me know if you need more clarification.


live well,
  vagrant

 
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Andrew Lee <ajq...@debian.org> wrote:
> > Hi PCMan,
> >
> > I am working on LXDE packaging for Debian 6.0 release. I'd hope this
> > feature request would be included in Debian 6.0.
> >
> > Please read the report below from Vagrant Cascadian who is also one of
> > the upsteam of LTSP.
> >
> > If you have any question, I think Vagrant Cascadian would love to answer.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > -Andrew
> >
> > Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
> >> Package: lxsession
> >> Severity: wishlist
> >>
> >> in ltsp 5.1.98, a feature was introduced to allow thin clients to shut 
> >> down or
> >> reboot by setting an X property/xatom, LTSP_LOGOUT_ACTION before logout.
> >>
> >> it would be great if lxsession-logout could support this by detecting an 
> >> LTSP
> >> environment (using the environment variable LTSP_CLIENT=True), and if the
> >> shutdown/reboot button is selected, set the appropriate X property instead 
> >> of
> >> shutting down the server(while still logging the user out as usual).
> >>
> >> i tried looking at the lxsession-logout code to figure out a patch, but i
> >> couldn't quite wrap my head into where to insert it. i'd be happy to test 
> >> code
> >> or provide more clarification.
> >>
> >> from the commandline, for shutdown/halt:
> >>
> >>   xprop -root -f LTSP_LOGOUT_ACTION 8s -set LTSP_LOGOUT_ACTION HALT
> >>
> >> for reboot/restart:
> >>
> >>   xprop -root -f LTSP_LOGOUT_ACTION 8s -set LTSP_LOGOUT_ACTION REBOOT
> >>
> >> it could also be done with code to set the X property directly from
> >> lxsession-logout.  there's some example code for how to do it in 
> >> gnome-session
> >> in a bug report on launchpad:
> >>
> >>   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/491940
> >>
> >> thanks for considering the request!
> >>
> >> live well,
> >>   vagrant
> >>
> >>
> >
> >



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