Adam Majer dijo [Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:36:23AM -0600]: > This may be correct, but if you look at C/C++ ABI and API, they are not > stable either. Yet, it is possible to install multiple versions of a > given library. C/C++ linker address this problem. In Ruby, that linker > is currently gems at runtime. > > How do you propose we support multiple versions, like C/C++ does?
Thing is with C/C++ libraries a SONAME bump is regarded as an important step, and avoided if at all possible. Inconveniences are known, migrations are feared. In Ruby, new Gems flow breaking API compatibility with a frustratingly high frequency. > (…) > Finally, rubygems has become a defacto standard of distributing ruby > software. For many developers, the .tar.gz is going away completely in > ruby. I think if 3rd party software wants to pull in libfoo gem, it > should first attempt to use the Debian package instead of a 3rd party > gem. This is, however, true. We do experience user frustration because things do not work the same in Debian and elsewhere. And we are not in a comfortable position at all :( > PS. No blame or faults. But if we try to keep with the perfect > scenario, it will become more difficult to package ruby > applications. And we will be unable to provide transitions (without > changing library names, which is the rougher end of the stick). Adam, I am very happy you joined the discussion, and you are getting more involved in pkg-ruby-extras - No, we (the group) have not come out to invite you, but as Rails is such a popular Ruby application, and as several of us are Rails developers... It is a common discussion point. You may know we have had several interesting Ruby-related discussions in past DebConfs. I would love to meet you and be able to discuss and work this over - Do you plan on attending DebConf at New York? The high bandwidth of a room we are physically located might help us quite a bit. Greetings, -- Gunnar Wolf • gw...@gwolf.org • (+52-55)5623-0154 / 1451-2244 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
