Lucas, Norbert, Julien, Hilmar,

thank you for your feedback.

I modified slightly the build-dependencies of collatinus, it should pass
the build under Sid.

The package is now uploaded at
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/c/collatinus/

If any of you can upload it, I thank him in advance. If it is not
feasible, I shall post a call more widely in two days.

Best regards,                   Georges.

Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
> On 03/01/10 at 17:40 +0000, Julien Cristau wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan  3, 2010 at 18:30:46 +0100, Norbert Preining wrote:
> > 
> > > On So, 03 Jan 2010, Julien Cristau wrote:
> > > > It might have been a good idea to announce the change and explain the
> > > > possible impact before doing it, and maybe do an archive test build
> > > 
> > > The packages have been in experimental for some time.
> > 
> > That's irrelevant...
> > > 
> > > And no, we didn't do an archive test build, my laptop is to small for that
> > > and that is the *ONLY* developing machine for texlive.
> > 
> > I'm not suggesting doing that on your laptop.  There have been archive
> > test builds for new gcc versions and countless other things in the past,
> > I asked for one before the last libx11 upload, etc.  It's not more work
> > for you to ask for this, and it means you have an idea about the impact
> > of your changes on the rest of the archive, which means you and others
> > can be better prepared for the change when it happens.
> > 
> > > > before uploading the new packages then, instead of making an unknown
> > > > number of packages unbuildable without warning…  Oh well, maybe next
> > > > time.
> > > 
> > > I know that this is bad, but that is SID about. How many times 
> > > *our* packages stopped with FTBFS due to some poppler switch I don't
> > > want to recount to you. That is life, and it is sid, so nothing to 
> > > complain.
> > > 
> > Yes, actually, something to complain.  Your packages have a lot of
> > reverse build dependencies, which means you are responsible for
> > communicating with those package maintainers when planning disruptive
> > changes.  Nothing new there, and because some other packages caused
> > disruption in the past doesn't mean you have to do the same.
> 
> Lots of packages break the archive because of transitions on
> a regular basis. More communication from the texlive maintainers would
> have been nice, as well as more coordinated actions during the bug
> filing. But asking for archive rebuilds before each major transition is
> just too much.
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