On Sunday 22 of November 2009 01:55:08 Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> Having xscreensaver autostart is just wrong.  The way to disable it is
> way too complicated for most users to understand, and it still interferes
> with kde and gnome's own screensaver setups.
> 
> Please revert this completely and never do it again.  It is simply the
> wrong way to do things.
> 
> Every desktop manager has a way to start and select screensavers.  Having
> xscreensaver but in the way simply annoys users and confuses everyone.
> it is easy to enable xscreensaver from any window manager and desktop.
> It is currently very hard to prevent xscreensaver from running.  hence the
> current setup is just wrong.  Wrong wrong wrong.
> 

I totally agree. Most users have gnome or kde and they are totally confused 
when they find that their screensaver settings are not honored. I was confused 
myself too, it took me a week to find out that xscreensaver was running.

I am a kde user, so I can talk about what a kde user faces with this setup:
1) KDE screensaver settings are not honored. Setting a different screesaver, a 
different timeout, disabling screensaver, they all don't work because 
xscreensaver always kicks in.
2) Mplayer and other video players do not stop xscreensaver for some reason 
(probably because they attempt to stop kscreensaver as they are running inside 
kde?), so you get screensavers right in the middle of movies... :@

To fix this, a user has to:
1) Find xscreensaver in the output of ps and realize that xscreensaver is not 
part of KDE. (Do you really expect an average user to be able to do that??)
2) Either disable it by using the complicated method with the desktop files 
(which requires looking in this bug report to find instructions), or purge it.

So, I think autostarting xscreensaver is just wrong and must be reverted asap. 
Users that use xscreensaver are probably advanced enough to know how to make  
xscreensaver autostart.

Regards,
George



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