On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:43:08 +0100, micu <micuin...@gmx.de> wrote:
> ;-). For example, I still do not get how the subpixel and hinting renderer 
> knows, where the (sub-)pixels are. But this is no course in font
> rendering :)

This is from the value you set for the "rgba" parameter in fontconfig.
When you set "rgb" there you're saying that you have sub-pixels in the
order of red, then green, then blue horizontally. If you happened to
have a reversed display devide, then you would set "bgr" there instead.
And if you have a device rotated so that the sub-pixels are vertical
rather than horizontal, then you can use "vrgb" or "vbgr".

> The thing that still confuses me is that both Konqueror and Iceweasel have 
> colored edges in their window title font in 

Yes. I noticed that this last time too. I don't know where that's coming
from, (perhaps a bug in the window manager in that *it* is not
respecting your font configuration settings).

> Okay. So there is a patch, which changes cairo to use the subpixel filtering 
> of freetype instead of its own and it is this one proposed here
> 
>       http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10301
> 
> right? And my Debian version does not use it. Is this the patch applied to 
> the 
> Debian package by the Ubuntu guys (resulting in the font rendering I 
> personally prefer)?

It could be. I've never looked closely at the Debian package, (but I've
heard rumors that they patch things in this area).

> Is it that what distinguishes the packages "cairo-lcd" and "cairo" in arch 
> linux? 
> 
>       
> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fonts#The_original_.22LCD.22_packages

Again. No idea. I've never used nor looked at that distribution either.

> To summarize: The behavior I reported is not directly a bug, but we have a 
> typical feature vs. bug issue here, because it is a matter of taste which 
> subpixel filter looks better:

Yes.

> Therefore I suggest: Would it be a possibilty to let users decide (either by 
> a 
> config option or by providing two different packages, as the arch linux 
> people 
> do---if it's that what they're doing)? Ok, as you say, it results in more 
> (complicated) options:

It's definitely possible. It's simply a matter of coming up with
configuration options that make sense enough for me to be willing to
accept them with my "upstream cairo" hat on. :-)

> I completly understand that. Somehow, these Qt guys must have solved this 
> problem as well---at least the selection of the subpixel filtering algorithm‽ 
> Maybe it would be good to do it the same way‽

Could be. Could you look into that and see what they come up with for
configuration, if anything?

-Carl



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