Am Mittwoch 04 November 2009 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> Am Mittwoch 04 November 2009 schrieb Eric S. Johansson:
> > On 11/3/2009 4:44 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > Maybe its a treshold issue? Those after learning wronly classified
> > > mails are all above 5 but below 10.
> > >
> > > mar...@shambhala:~/Mail/.trash.directory/Unsicher/cur>  grep
> > > CRM114-Status *
> > > 1257260447.22316.TzOey:2,S:X-CRM114-Status: UNSURE (   8.75  )
> > > 1257260448.22316.oyQo1:2,S:X-CRM114-Status: UNSURE (   9.35  )
> > > 1257261491.22316.huxyz:2,S:X-CRM114-Status: UNSURE (   8.84  )
> > > 1257261491.22316.huxyz:2,S:X-CRM114-Status: UNSURE (   8.14  )
> > > 1257280958.22316.OnA0L:2,S:X-CRM114-Status: UNSURE (   8.98  )
> > > 1257280993.22316.Tapxy:2,S:X-CRM114-Status: UNSURE (   7.99  )
> > > 1257280994.22316.czbwZ:2,S:X-CRM114-Status: UNSURE (   9.18  )
> > > 1257281001.22316.Xp889:2,S:X-CRM114-Status: UNSURE (   8.63  )
> > > 1257283921.22316.6uatN:2,S:X-CRM114-Status: UNSURE (   7.12  )
> > >
> > > ("Unsicher" is the german word for "unsure")
> >
> > I have been experiencing a similar or common even the same bug for a
> >  couple years now.  I bet if you look at the statuses and plotted
> > them you'd find that there is a pileup of scores near the threshold
> > on the red and a smaller hump on the green.  this kind of problem has
> > rendered twopenny blue almost useless because you spend your day
> > cleaning out hundreds of messages that should have been classified as
> > spam and are not training properly.
> >
> > I'm more than willing to run experiments on different classifiers but
> > I need a simpler interface than even mail Reaver.  I want no cache
> > and an output that makes it easier to determine what's going on
> > without schlepping the message in both directions.
> 
> Actually I just like to work as before the update. ;)
> 
> It worked perfectly for me. Now I have at least 30 mails in my unsure
> folder that are wrongly classified. Something is really not working as
> smooth as before here. Fortunately I have policyd-weight running on my
> mail server, otherwise I it might have been 500 or 1000 mails already.
> 
> I am considering setting ham treshold to +5 instead of +10. But I have
>  a mail that has even been classified below +5 after learning. At least
>  it should mitigate the problem somewhat.

I have set the good treshold to +5 again - from +10 - and now CRM114 seems 
to behave as before. I am not sure whether this is the correct bug fix, but 
it works for me.

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Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de
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