Mike Frysinger, le Thu 17 Sep 2009 19:30:02 -0400, a écrit :
> > > login/pam are there to do authentication only, not screw with the
> > > terminal.
> > 
> > Login already does screw with the terminal in setup_tty(),
> 
> presumably enough to prevent echoing of the password, but that's about it 
> (for 
> obvious security reasons).

Have you looked at the code before saying that?

                /*
                 * Add your favorite terminal modes here ...
                 */
                termio.c_lflag |= ISIG | ICANON | ECHO | ECHOE;
                termio.c_iflag |= ICRNL;

etc...

> > and with pam they already screw with a lot of various things about the
> > session: sid, limits, initial environment variables (like MAIL_DIR), home
> > automount, ...
> 
> any solution that requires pam is no solution at all.  the things you mention 
> here really are part of login configuring things, not pam.

Then be it login itself.

> i dont have a fedora box myself, but from talking to a friend, things
> "just work" in the default setup. or at least it defaults everything
> to unicode.

Did he check whether stty -a properly shows iutf8?  Things work very
fine even without it, one of the very few effects of iutf8 left cleared
is the bug I mentioned in my report: canonical mode's treatment of
backspace.  People rarely notice it.

Samuel



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