On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Jamie Zawinski wrote:
> That's nonsense.  Either the hack in a particular release of xscreensaver
> works properly, or it doesn't.

I am not talking about xscreensaver releases, but distribution
releases. They include the Xorg stack with various GL bugs. Let me
give you an example: flurry used to make machines freeze, due to bugs
in Xorg. It was not possible to solve the Xorg bugs in time for the
distribution release, so we disabled flurry. Now it does not crash any
longer, so we can ship flurry again.

> And it's not like these things actually change with any great frequency.

> You're solving problems that don't actually exist.

I wish you were right :) In the end the user see some screensaver
crash their machine, and he/she is not interested in what the real
problem or the real fix (TM) is, or developers arguing about who to
blame.

> Moving hacks around at all is silly and confusing.  Just get it right the
> first time.  Anything else is a cop-out and waste of effort.

Which hacks to be shipped by default and which to offer optionally
will change over time, also because new fancy hacks are added and some
will look old and uncool.

It is also about automating things so we avoid mistakes when doing
things manually. Example: When we shipped flurry again, we forgot to
add back the man page. And when a new hack will be included upstream,
it is now a one-liner to get it correctly included. This is enough
reason for us to apply this patch.



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