So wrote Christian Perrier on Thursday, 30 June 2005: > Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:21:19 +0200 > From: Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Pkg-nagios-devel] Bug#316271: nagios install fails "chage: > can't open shadow password fileadduser" > User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i > Cc: Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], > debian-boot@lists.debian.org > > Quoting sean finney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > i can't be certain without reinstalling some system with an official > > sarge installer (i suppose i could deboostrap+base-config, but i still > > wouldn't be 100% certain), but i'm fairly certain shadow passwords > > are the default these days. looking in the debconf templates for > > the shadow package included in the installer iso, i see the default > > for the shadow question in true though... > > > > i'll cc this to debian-boot to see if someone could verify this. > > Well, the shadow maintainer could have better confirmed also but it > happens he reads -boot as well..:-) > > Yes, the default is to install the system with shadow passwords. Both > when passwd is configured from base-config (thus in d-i) AND when it > is configured alone. > > > > > > > so in your opinion, should this bug be closed or should i reorganize > > > > this bug as "nagios does not work on systems without shadow passwords"? > > > > > > in my opinion you should reorganize it because there definitely was a > > > problem on the system > > > without shadow passwords and because i think that the debian installer - > > > at least some versions of it - were not asking if they should be enabled > > > when setting up passwd. so it is possible that a good number of systems > > > do not have shadow passwords enabled and could run into this same > > This is not true. Default installs skip the question about shadow > passwords because the debconf priority is high whie the question has a > low priority. > > But, in that case, the default settings are used and the answer to the > shadow passwords question is "True". > > So, systems *without* shadow passwords should be very rare, at least > for sarge or above systems installed from scrtach. The only case where > shadow passwords may be disabled are:
I recently did a whole slate of Debian installs with the first release of Sarge. All of them were done in expert mode and none of them enabled shadow passwords. Nor was I ever asked to enable them at any point during the setup. I know this because I *always* enable this when the choice is presented. > > -really really really old Debian systems (I haven't been able to find > when the default was switch to shadow passwords but it probably older > than potato and certainyl far older) > > -systems where the admin deliberately chooses to NOT use shadow > passwords by doing "dpkg-reconfigure passwd" and answer "False" to > the question > > -systems installed with d-i in "expert" mode where the admin also did > choose to deliberately answer "False" to that question > > So all cases are very rare. > > > > problem. or maybe you could close it and just have the installer do a > > > quick test to see if shadow is enabled and then warn about it? > > > > in any case i think not installing for systems w/o shadow passwords is a > > bug, > > Depends. In some cases (such as old NIS setups, IIRC), this may be needed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
