Hi,
* Diego Biurrun <di...@biurrun.de> [2008-12-25 22:19]:
> On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 11:12:34PM +0100, Nico Golde wrote:
> > * Diego Biurrun <di...@biurrun.de> [2008-12-24 22:50]:
> > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 09:56:15PM +0100, A Mennucc wrote:
[...] 
> > > Your patch is incorrect and insufficient.  You should submit your
> > > patches upstream to FFmpeg instead of posting it to a distro bug
> > > tracker.  It was reviewed no more than 15 minutes (on a December
> > > 24) after I sent it to the ffmpeg-devel mailing list.
> > > 
> > > Please do not add not fully understood patches to your distro packages.
> > 
> > You do read the referenced bugs before starting to throw 
> > with mud do you?
> > I guess not otherwise you would have read
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=509616#5:
> > "Attached is a patch to fix this, I am not sure if that is 
> > the correct way to fix this as I have no insight on the code 
> > functionality itself but at least it prevents mplayer from 
> > crashing. So you might want to check back with upstream."
> 
> And here is your upstream, confirming what you already suspected: Your
> patch papers over the problem without fixing the root cause.
> 
> So if you knew this all along, why act offended now?

Because I have better things to do than reading arrogant 
upstream replies who fail to read the references but instead 
act like people would blindly apply patches?
Or since you are German, let's say "wie man in den Wald 
hineinruft, so schallt es heraus"

> This is upstream appearing on your distribution channels and helping
> you out directly.

I'm impressed.

> > > We all know the troubles this caused with openssl.
> > 
> > What a miserable comparison.
> 
> I beg to differ.  It is not a distributions job to patch programs.
> There are hardly any exceptions to this rule.
> 
> The openssl fiasco was just a very visible and catastrophic example.
> The root problem, however, is the same: Distributions patching programs
> without upstream coordination and review.

I see no need to discuss this with you as you seem to miss 
the necessary background, please consult your favorite 
search engine. You know http://marc.info/?l=openssl-dev&m=114652287210110&w=2
do you?

> Unfortunately this mindset is entrenched in distro people's minds and
> changing your habits will be difficult.  If the openssl fiasco leads to
> change in this area, it will end up having had a positive effect in the
> long run.

There is no need to explain the need of checking-back with 
upstream. As you see in my previous mail this was already 
done or at least there was the advice to do this. 
EOD from my side.

> merry xmas

same to you, let's start on fixing the bug.

Cheers
Nico
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