tag 508761 + wontfix retitle 508761 "don't depend/recommend Java stuff" thanks
Hi, Michael Biebl wrote: > Doesn't really matter that much to me: It does. > What I see after the lenny installation/upgrade is, that I have a whole lot of > java packages because of OO.o. O lot of them don't seem to be necessary. Wrong. You installed the desktop task. Which installed openoffice.org (thus openoffice.org-base and openoffice.org-java-common) and openoffice.org-gcj. openoffice.org is a metapackage depending (amongst others) against openoffice.org-base. openoffice.org-base (the Database component) needs Java. point. Your bug here was that the *upgrade* pulled in many stuff, which is not true since existing stuff just got upgraded. if you didn't want Java you should have removed it from your etch in the first place. > This looks a lot like misplaced Recommends somewhere in the dependency chain. This looks like you should not install the metapackage/openoffice.org-gcj/openoffice.org-java-common if you don't want Java. And turn off that braindamaged "install Recommends per default". In any case, some modules (like openoffice.org-writer DOES Recommend Java, yes, but that for the reason that some of the wizards DO need Java). The goal of tasks is to give people a working/fast OOo. And to make the internal database work you need Java. no discussion. The engine used is libhsqldb-java. I don't like that java thing at all either, but you have to live with the fact that many parts of OOo need Java and that the sense of a metapackage or a task is to install working packages. If you don't want Java, remove those packages. > Why close? I still have this awfully long list of java dependencies. > If it's not OO.o fault, then please reassign, but do not simply close them. Then it's merely a wish to remove those of the metapackage, which is an outright + wontfix. And because I do care about the sanity of by buglist and my bugcount I'd prefer to close this instead of keeping it open idefinitely. Again: when you don't want Java, don't install the parts of OOo which DO need Java. Grüße/Regards, René -- .''`. René Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :' : http://www.debian.org | http://people.debian.org/~rene/ `. `' r...@debian.org | GnuPG-Key ID: 248AEB73 `- Fingerprint: 41FA F208 28D4 7CA5 19BB 7AD9 F859 90B0 248A EB73 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
