Hi,
sorry for the delay asking to your mail.

Il giorno lun, 07/04/2008 alle 12.22 +0200, Franklin PIAT ha scritto:
> Hi,
> 
> A few more words on my rationale. If it doesn't convince you, the
> "wishlist/wontfix" would be fine for me too.
> 
> On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 01:21 +0200, Francesco Namuri wrote:
> > Il giorno 05/apr/08, alle ore 15:40, Franklin PIAT ha scritto:
> > >
> > > qemulator.desktop says "Category=..;Utility;..." therefore the icon  
> > > ends up in Gnome's "Accessories" section [1].
> 
> If we observe what's in the Accessories menu on a fresh Debian
> installation, there are only utilities for "true" end-user, like
> Calculator,  Take screenshot, Terminal, Text editor...

Yes, you are right, but if you install "qemu launcher", the category is
the same of qemulator.

> Tools that are more technical are in the System submenu (that's how I
> understand it, at least)
> 
> > > I think "Categories=System;Emulator;GTK" would be more appropriate.
> > > (Actually, this would match your pre-existing /usr/share/menu file)
> > >
> 
> > Emulator: Emulator of another platform, such as a DOS emulator
> 
> Yep, Freedesktop has no place for vitalization tools. But the difference
> between emulator, system simulator, virtual machine, hypervisors, etc..
> are sometime very subtle (consider
> qemu, qemu-${arch}, qemu-system-${arch}, kvm, etc..)

I know, I'm following very strictly the description of the emulator
category made by freedesktop, BTW in the .desktop file there is also the
"emulator" category...

> >From a user point of view, it may make sense to group them all, IMHO.
> 
> Freedesktop puts game-emulator on one side and system-emulator on the
> other side, which seems sensible to me (separation is based on what user
> want to do, not how it's achieved).
> 
> > qemulator is a front-end to qemu, so I think that is more appropriate
> > the utility section, is for this reason that I've made a patch to the
> > original .desktop file.
> 
> As far as the user is concerned, qemulator is qemu and vice-versa.

I think that my desktop file is more correct with the "Utility" category
specified, but I think also that your rationale is not wrong. From my
POV we are right both...

> Thanks for bringing qemulator to Debian.

Thanks to you for your bug report...

Cheers,
francesco

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