Don,
Last post on this. I have neither time nor energy to debate this to death.
| Just because other distributions and platforms are not capable of
| dealing with packages in a sane manner does not mean that saddling
| users of R with pointlessly gigantic packages is a good idea.
It's a trade-off. I surely want the code to behave as it does on other
systems. I take advantage of Debian's builtins wherever I can, but defer to
upstream where I have learned over the years to trust their judgement. They
tend to know their code better than I do so ...
| It may be best in the eyes of upstream, because then they don't have
| to worry about modularization, but it's not necessarily the best thing
They do, and do it well, but in a context larger than Debian.
We're not getting anywere with this discussion, so I'll tune out now.
Let me thank you for the time you put into this. I really appreciate this as
maintainer, and please don't take my "rejection" of your patch for this issue
as an indication of future "rejection". I hope it does not discourage you
from helping any of the R packages in the future.
| Just compare the R situtation (a monolithic upstream package, with an
It's not monolithic at all. R has a created an infrastructure that now
/reliably/ supports over 500 add-on packages on CRAN, and possibly close to
100 on BioConductor, plus Omegahat for some more experimental stuff. Various
packages extend R in different forms. R has been embedded into Postgres,
turned into a server, welded to the web in different ways, been married to
Python (twice), glued to Perl, ...
| 1: As I said before, the only reason I've even entered into this
| discussion is because of the RC bug on rpy, and the fact that it was
| holding up the release.
It wasn't holding the release up, there was simply a version mismatch due to
staleness and the freeze. Rpy got caught in the freeze as I had fixed a
user-request bug before the freeze, missing the 10-day deadline. That's
all. Kurt did remind us to get 0.4.1-4 into testing, which was indeed
valuable.
Dirk
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