On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 01:21:52AM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote: > I am fully aware that this is not a nice thing to propose and I know > that even though Ron does not know me and probably never even heard of > me, he will dislike me from this point. I would even go as far as to > agreeing to parts of why that is the case. Still, I feel the need to > write this email. Sorry Ron, and I mean that.
I don't automatically dislike people just because they did something hasty, stupid, or ignorant. The people with the most right to hold this against you will be the ones who get burned after blindly following your advice, or the ones who get burned by what those people inflict upon them. That won't be me, I'm just chalking you up as static ranting in public without investigating the real issues first. You get used to that pretty quickly after a few years on wx lists. > The current situation is as follows: A release with a new minor number > has been out for more than a _year_. And has had _at least_ one release critical bug open for it in Ubuntu for _more than a year_. And a constant stream of similar "it crashes" bugs being reported upstream continuously. Filezilla, one of the so called 'blockers' here, also doesn't seem to work in Ubuntu without crashing. Not to mention poedit, which is marked as a blocker on the basis of a totally non-existent release that if, when it is released, really does need 2.8, will be the result of a totally gratuitous decision by one of the members of the wx 'core team' who brought you this buggy unmanaged mess called 2.8 in the first place. So remind me why we desperately need this in Debian when it will be obsoleted by upstream, probably before Lenny releases, and certainly before it is ever in anything like an actually releasable state. > I do not claim to know what issues are open with 2.8, And yet you think, "upload now, regret later" is the best course of action for _someone else_ to take? I would have thought that finding out what the issues are would have been the _first_ thing you should have set your mind to when you felt compelled to act, as you say, in ways that you suspected would make the people Doing The Work hate you. I was originally thinking I should probably pity anyone who takes your advice, but now I'm not so sure about that either ... Caveat emptor, Ron -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
