Keith Packard wrote:
Some capital letters (V,W,N) won't render correctly in the Sans Serif font 
after upgrading to 2.4.91-1.
Please see the attached screenshot, especially the words "Werbung",
"VoIP", "Nvidia", "DVD".

That's weird. I cannot reproduce this myself.

Strange I see this on both of my machines, one AMD64 the other x86.

Can you check your
iceweasel configuration to make sure you're using Sans Serif?

The screenshot I sent is showing konqueror, but it's the same in iceweasel. In iceweasel the Sans-serif font is 'sans-serif'. I have to decrease the font size once (Ctrl+-) to see the effect.

And then,
can you see what:

  $ fc-match -v 'Sans Serif'

returns?

I've attached the output using both versions of fontconfig.


If those look good,

How do I tell?

please try to reproduce this with something simpler,
like 'xfd' (using the -fa option) or even the 'gwaterfall' program which
you'll find in my git repository: git://keithp.com/git/gwaterfall.

No success so far, i.e. gwaterfall seems to display all fonts just fine.


Some further information that might be helpful:

I'm using the en_US.UTF-8 locale.
I've even attached a list of font related packages installed ont his system (dpkg -l | grep font).

I've even created a new user, logged in, started iceweasel, went to golem.de or spiegel.de, hit Ctrl+- and saw the same effect.

Regards,

Felix
Pattern has 29 elts (size 32)
        family: "Bitstream Vera Sans"(s)
        familylang: "en"(s)
        style: "Roman"(s)
        stylelang: "en"(s)
        slant: 0(i)(s)
        weight: 80(i)(s)
        width: 100(i)(s)
        size: 12(f)(s)
        pixelsize: 12.5(f)(s)
        foundry: "bitstream"(s)
        antialias: FcTrue(w)
        hintstyle: 3(i)(w)
        hinting: FcTrue(w)
        verticallayout: FcFalse(s)
        autohint: FcFalse(s)
        globaladvance: FcTrue(s)
        file: "/var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/B/Bitstream-Vera-Sans.ttf"(s)
        index: 0(i)(s)
        outline: FcTrue(s)
        scalable: FcTrue(s)
        dpi: 75(f)(s)
        rgba: 1(i)(w)
        scale: 1(f)(s)
        charset: 0000: 00000000 ffffffff ffffffff 7fffffff 00000000 ffffffff 
ffffffff ffffffff
        0001: c00230c0 00030000 c00c0006 61000003 00040000 00000000 00000000 
00000000
        0002: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 3f0000c0 
00000000
        0003: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000200 00000001 
00000000
        0020: 77180000 06010047 00000010 00000000 00000000 00001000 00000000 
00000000
        0021: 00000000 00000004 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 
00000000
        0022: 46268044 00000800 00000100 00000031 00000000 00000000 00000000 
00000000
        0025: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000400 
00000000
        00fb: 00000006 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 
00000000
(s)
        lang: 
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        fontversion: 131072(i)(s)
        fontformat: "TrueType"(s)
        embeddedbitmap: FcTrue(s)
        decorative: FcFalse(s)

Pattern has 31 elts (size 32)
        family: "Bitstream Vera Sans"(s)
        familylang: "en"(s)
        style: "Roman"(s)
        stylelang: "en"(s)
        fullname: "Bitstream Vera Sans"(s)
        fullnamelang: "en"(s)
        slant: 0(i)(s)
        weight: 80(i)(s)
        width: 100(i)(s)
        size: 12(f)(s)
        pixelsize: 12.5(f)(s)
        foundry: "bitstream"(s)
        antialias: FcTrue(w)
        hintstyle: 3(i)(w)
        hinting: FcTrue(w)
        verticallayout: FcFalse(s)
        autohint: FcFalse(s)
        globaladvance: FcTrue(s)
        file: "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/microsoft/Vera.ttf"(s)
        index: 0(i)(s)
        outline: FcTrue(s)
        scalable: FcTrue(s)
        dpi: 75(f)(s)
        rgba: 1(i)(w)
        scale: 1(f)(s)
        charset: 0000: 00000000 ffffffff ffffffff 7fffffff 00000000 ffffffff 
ffffffff ffffffff
        0001: c00230c0 00030000 c00c0006 61000003 00040000 00000000 00000000 
00000000
        0002: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 3f0000c0 
00000000
        0003: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000200 00000001 
00000000
        0020: 77180000 06010047 00000010 00000000 00000000 00001000 00000000 
00000000
        0021: 00000000 00000004 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 
00000000
        0022: 46268044 00000800 00000100 00000031 00000000 00000000 00000000 
00000000
        0025: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000400 
00000000
        00fb: 00000006 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 
00000000
(s)
        lang: 
aa|ast|ay|bi|br|ch|co|da|de|en|es|et|eu|fi|fj|fo|fr|fur|fy|gd|gl|gv|ho|ia|id|ie|io|is|it|lb|mg|nb|nds|nl|nn|no|nr|nso|oc|om|pt|rm|sma|smj|so|sq|ss|st|sv|sw|tn|tr|ts|vo|vot|wa|xh|yap|zu(s)
        fontversion: 131072(i)(s)
        fontformat: "TrueType"(s)
        embeddedbitmap: FcTrue(s)
        decorative: FcFalse(s)

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Font Manager -- automatic font config
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generic font configuration library - support
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generic font configuration library - configu
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Xft-compatible versions of some LaTeX fonts
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generic font configuration library - runtime
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FreeType-based font drawing library for X (d
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scalable PostScript and OpenType fonts based
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