> > Package: libxine1
> > Version: 1.1.8-1
> > Severity: wishlist
> You clearly have the version wrong, since libxine1-x is only available
> in 1.1.8-2. 

You are right, I didn't do the upgrade because of all the stuff that carries
with it, so I'm still at -1

> This is not necessarily because of the xine-lib source package, but
> because of apt now installing recommends by default. If you really care
> about all this stuff not being installed by default, you need to track
> down the dependency graph of recommends, and file bugs to demote
> respective recommends to suggest. (And I'm sure there are bugs to be
> filed here).

You are partially right here again, but setting APT::Install-Recommends
false only partially solves the problem:

pul:~# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  gnome-mime-data libfam0 libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libhal-storage1
  libwavpack1 libxcb-shape0 libxcb-shm0 libxcb-xv0 libxcb1 libxine1-console
  libxine1-gnome libxine1-misc-plugins libxine1-plugins libxine1-x
  shared-mime-info
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libxine1
1 upgraded, 16 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/6613kB of archives.
After unpacking 14.9MB of additional disk space will be used.

I still get the gnome stuff here which was my complaint from the beginning.

> Have you tried manually installing/upgrading libxine1-misc before the
> dist-upgrade? It should be possible now to install xine without that
> load of additional packages you mentioned above. Since you really want a
> minimal system, I'd suggest you to configure apt to not install
> recommends.

Yes, I have tried, this is what happens if I try to install just the
libxine1-x package:

pul:~# apt-get install libxine1-x                                       
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  libwavpack1 libxcb-shape0 libxcb-shm0 libxcb-xv0 libxcb1 libxine1
  libxine1-misc-plugins
Suggested packages:
  gxine
Recommended packages:
  libxine1-doc libxine-doc
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libxine1-ffmpeg libxine1-xvdr xine-ui
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libwavpack1 libxcb-shape0 libxcb-shm0 libxcb-xv0 libxcb1
  libxine1-misc-plugins libxine1-x
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libxine1
1 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/3005kB of archives.
After unpacking 4108kB disk space will be freed.

As you see I'm loosing all xine stuff I had, only if I install libxine1-x
and libxine1-misc-plugins I get to what I suppose is the desirable
behaviour:

pul:~# apt-get install libxine1-x libxine1-misc-plugins
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  libwavpack1 libxcb-shape0 libxcb-shm0 libxcb-xv0 libxcb1 libxine1
Suggested packages:
  gxine
Recommended packages:
  libxine1-doc libxine-doc
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libwavpack1 libxcb-shape0 libxcb-shm0 libxcb-xv0 libxcb1
  libxine1-misc-plugins libxine1-x
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libxine1
1 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/3005kB of archives.
After unpacking 713kB of additional disk space will be used.

But that came after some try and error, where I saw that installing
libxine1-plugins was dropping in the gnome stuff and that
libxine1-misc-plugins was the one replacing libxine1.

> Do you agree that this bug can just be closed?

Well, I really think this could be done in a way that it would be simpler
for us to get the system not too flooded with not wanted stuff, at least
when you are only trying to upgrade a lib (libxine1) without apt installing
all the recommends. If you feel that there is no way to get this easier for
the user wanting just a minimal thing, then you can close it.

Regards...
-- 
Manty/BestiaTester -> http://manty.net



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