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I do realize the importance of good/strong password and the desire of guiding installers to used them. I also realize the need for ease of use especially for new users. If I'm new to Debian installer I don't care about good/strong passwords as I know I will probably muck it up or want to redo the install several times. So setting the root password to "root" is very convenient and not a security risk. Many new users to Debian complain how difficult and geeky it is to use. Some of them even go back to MS. Opensource should be about not only choice but also simplicity. If I want to run a kiosk that only displays pictures of the building its in using a stand alone machine locked in a box, I don't care about security. It would really piss me off if I was force to use a long complex password as this would be a waste of my time. Let the user/installer chose whether he/she wants to use "root" as the root password or some 256 char long password with whatever set of characters without bugging them. The guide is there and guess what... the user/installer can read! If they chose to ignore the guidelines then that is there choice. - -- Thank you. ********************************************************************* Steven Demetriuson't - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Tel: (855 12) 810 350 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ********************************************************************* Steven Demetrius 2007 ********************************************************************* -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHJB2NE5pZTZCwxmQRAqYXAJ9vU6bz+eTYPBaNDxqX9mWmQAf+KQCfXMPQ x5etIi4FJO8yHJOvROGVGNY= =0cSU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]