On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 08:57:21AM -0500, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > Yes, of course. I know about common packages and I wasn't arguing > that wx-common is a bad thing. Only that the -dev packages should > depend on it.
But that is the whole crux of the matter, they _don't_ depend on it. It's not a stretch of the imagination, or any technicality, they just really, simply, don't. Only packages that use it depend on it, and they should have a proper build-dep of their own. People building 3rd party unpackaged source need to find and install the correct build deps manually like they always have had (and probably always will have) to do. > As it stands now, wxwin.m4 is "hidden" in the sense > that it doesn't get installed when one installs the -dev package. It is not hidden at all, it is optional, and quite correctly so. When you select a -dev package with the tool of your choice, you'll get a "people who installed this .deb also installed..." message of some variety. All you have to do is say yes or no. You said no. In your case it was the wrong answer. That is not so for everyone. > This is contrary to my experience in Debian and, IMHO, a minor bug > easily fixed. Debian isn't a make world distribution where you get everything shoved down your throat whether you want it or not, and the places where it is a bit like that are major bugs IMO. So I'm sorry, but I really do see it as totally backward to suggest that we force this package on everyone, whether they need or want it or not, for no better reason than to work around your habit of ignoring suggested packages. Do you really think it would not be better to just fix a habit that has proven to cause you trouble? And no I'm not trying to lecture, I'm just trying to put some context on the big picture of what you are asking for. You are asking me to consider your ability to not think about what you install more important than other people's ability to install just what they need. And I don't really think that's the direction that the balance should tip... This isn't about hiding wxwin.m4 because its a monstrosity, that was a totally separate insider tip all of its own. This is about providing, or rather maintaining, an accurate description of the actual package inter-relationships that exist. I confidently doubt that you will make this particular mistake again, and in the absence of other people also making it, it is difficult to generalise on what more might help yet ... I guess we'll see. It's me, not you, that will get the angry email if they do in any case ;) Ron -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
