On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 12:43:05AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 07:43:30AM -0500, Ming Hua wrote:
> > Just to clarify: There are five options in that line I put in scim(1)
> > man page. Among them, two ("-c simple" and "-f x11") are default, the
> > other three are not default -- without "-e pinyin", the default is use
> > all IM engines, without "--no-socket"; the default is use socket if
> > available; without "-d", the default is to run in frontground.
>
> Q1: Do you think this will be stable for some time?
I think they will be. The 1.4 branch doesn't seem to be going to have
big changes, and 1.6 still has a long way to go before it becomes
stable.
> If so, do you think it is worth to change ...
That said, however --
> from:
> The following command starts scim in daemon mode, using the simple con-
> figure module, Pinyin IM engine module, X11 frontend
> module:
> scim -c simple -e pinyin -f x11 --no-socket -d
>
> to:
> The following command starts scim using the simple con- figure module
> and X11 frontend module (these are defaults) while loading only Pinyin
> IM engine module in daemon mode without using socket:
> scim -c simple -f x11 -e pinyin -d --no-socket
First, I'm not exactly sure I was describing --no-socket option very
accurately above. Even with --no-socket, I believe scim still creates
some socket under /tmp/, and also things may change depending on whether
scim-modules-socket package is installed. I am not familiar with that
part and don't really plan to investigate unless there is a compelling
reason to.
> (In my honest opinion, I think keeping all options and not-mentioning
> defaults are good idea since things will change time to time and this
> command is meant to be used in the scipt. So the typing length is not
> really a issue. We should fix zombie process issue first. That is the
> real bug.)
I concur. After all, that command is in the "EXAMPLE" section, and just
above it there is a simple example of "scim -d". I would like to hear
Dan clarify what exactly he is complaining about. His reply to this bug
is about using Pinyin for traditional Chinese, which is completely
unrelated to the issue we are discussing.
IMO, there are more pressing issues to solve about man page and/or
documentation in scim package. The /FrontEnd/X11/Dynamic setting and
scim-qtimm/scim-bridge alternatives are two, for example, just from top
of my head. So unless Dan comes up with a clear description of the
problem (or better, provides a patch), I don't think we should spend too
much time on this bug.
Ming
2007.09.04
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