retitle 366592 Pinyin method for traditional Chinese
severity 366592 wishlist
tags 366592 moreinfo
thanks
Hi,
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 02:51:20AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Package: scim
> Version: 1.4.4-1+b1
> Severity: normal
> File: /usr/share/doc/scim/README.Debian.gz
>
> We see
> scim-pinyin, scim-tables-zh
> (for simplified
> Chinese)
> scim-chewing, scim-tables-zh
> (for traditional
> Chinese)
> But we are a traditional Chinese user who uses pinyin.
OK.
> Seeing the above makes us feel there is no hope.
There is always hope :-) It can be added.
If it did not seem to exist for me, thus I documented as in the
README.Debian.
> We downloaded the scim stuff only to find that traditional Chinese
> pinyin users are not welcome!?
Let's not make this a political issue here.
I do not know much about Chinese but I will answer assuming pinyin is
reasonably popular input method in traditional Chinese context.
If this assumption is true, questions should be posed as:
Does SCIM have capability to support pinyin method in traditional
Chinese context?
* If YES -> Some one needs to add information.
* If No -> Some one needs to add functionality (or ask that to be
packaged)
This is not really a bug of SCIM but simply wishlist, again without
proposal.
Anyway, we need information. What do you know and what can you suggest
to do?
> If you have never used SCIM before, your ~/.scim/global may be not existent.
What is the problem with this?
> You can run ``scim'' from an X terminal, then press Ctrl-C to abort it, this
> configure file should be created for the user.
??? Why "should", please explain what problem it caused.
> The directory is created, but not that file.
Debian being very complex system with many system configuration options,
we do not make everything to be automated when that automation makes it
too complicated to maintain. We have documentation and leave such part
to users to configure to their taste. You are welcomed to propose
better configuration system.
If you are complaining since some manual action was needed, that is how
this is now and it is not a normal bug but wishlist of you to add such
functionality.
In light of above discussion, this bug is wishlist/moreinfo situation.
> Also:
> We are told to restart, but
> $ scim -c simple -e pinyin -f x11 --no-socket -d
> Smart Common Input Method 1.4.4
>
> Launching a SCIM process with x11...
> Loading simple Config module ...
> Creating backend ...
> Loading x11 FrontEnd module ...
> Failed to launch SCIM.
> The program should SAY WHY ...: already running
>
> So how to stop old?
> pkill -HUP scim #best I can figure out
>
> So mention all that.
Actually, this is reported more clearly in bug #431294.
I will keep that bug as the point to discuss this issue.
Please discuss this last issue there. Let's keep different issues
discussed separately.
(Basically, just do not start SCIM when already started.)
Osamu
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