On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 07:59:13 +0200
Ricardo Mones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:09:50 +0800
> Clayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 18:31:23 +0200
> > Ricardo Mones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:03:03 +0000
> > > Debian BTS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I recently upgraded from sylpheed, and vanilla
> > > > sylpheed/unison-gtk handle synchronization just fine.
> > > > 
> > > > Note that the Inbox is not the only mail folder affected, it is
> > > > just where I feel the most pain.
> > > 
> > >   Which directory is the 'user directory' you're referring to?
> > > your $HOME? $HOME/.claws-mail? $HOME/Mail (or equivalent)?
> > >   Are you syncing .* files in that dir? 
> > 
> > $HOME, all of it. unison syncs everything that isn't specifically
> > excluded, so all .* files are being synced. I have been doing this
> > for years, unison has worked really well for me up until this
> > moment.
> 
>   That's strange, have you upgraded unison recently? 
>   Claws Mail has not changed the way it deals with this files AFAIK.

I don't recall a recent unison update. I am no expert on apt/dpkg, but
the following would seem to indicate that the last time anything
significant happened with unison was in February:

clayton:/var/lib/dpkg/info# ll unison*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   0 2006-11-02 21:35 unison2.9.1-gtk.list
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 160 2006-02-07 07:42 unison2.9.1-gtk.postrm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 547 2007-04-15 15:26 unison-gtk.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 640 2007-02-16 05:40 unison-gtk.md5sums
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 397 2007-02-16 05:40 unison-gtk.postinst
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 160 2007-02-16 05:40 unison-gtk.postrm
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 288 2007-02-16 05:40 unison-gtk.preinst
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 124 2007-02-16 05:40 unison-gtk.prerm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 550 2007-04-15 15:26 unison.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 684 2007-02-16 05:40 unison.md5sums
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 401 2007-02-16 05:40 unison.postinst
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 276 2007-02-16 05:40 unison.preinst
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 315 2007-02-16 05:40 unison.prerm

Since then unison and sylpheed coexisted quite peacefully.
  
> > >   Are you preserving timestamps when syncing?
> > 
> > Good question. unison docs are kind of murky on the subject, but
> > this experiment in my ~/Mail/inbox/ would indicate timestamps are
> > being preserved:
> > 
> > Before sync:
> > -rw-r--r--  1 ckoen ckoen      10 2007-07-03 22:41 .mh_sequences
> > -rw-------  1 ckoen ckoen   21166 2007-06-23 19:19 .sylpheed_cache
> > -rw-------  1 ckoen ckoen   20522 2007-07-03
> > 22:41 .sylpheed_claws_cache -rw-------  1 ckoen ckoen     556
> > 2007-07-03 22:41 .sylpheed_mark -rwx------  1 ckoen ckoen    5000
> > 2006-09-03 14:58 .xmhcache
> > 
> > After sync:
> > -rw-r--r--  1 ckoen ckoen      24 2007-07-04 14:53 .mh_sequences
> > -rw-------  1 ckoen ckoen   21166 2007-06-23 19:19 .sylpheed_cache
> > -rw-------  1 ckoen ckoen   20493 2007-07-04
> > 14:53 .sylpheed_claws_cache -rw-------  1 ckoen ckoen     556
> > 2007-07-04 14:53 .sylpheed_mark -rwx------  1 ckoen ckoen    5000
> > 2006-09-03 14:58 .xmhcache
> > 
> > (I shut down claws-mail just before 15:00....)
> 
>   Mmm, let me picture your scenario more detailed, so you:
>   1) download mail in host A
>   2) operate with mail in A
>   3) then manually? periodically? sync A -> host B
>   4) open mail in host B and flags are gone?
>   5) download mail in host B? only modify flags in B?
>   6) sync back changes in B -> host A
>   7) go to A and flags are gone?
>   
>   Is that picture correct? I'm missing something?

That is exactly the picture. Syncs are always manual, when I move from
one host to the other.

> > BTW, I have been thinking that this should really be considered a
> > data loss kind of bug. I have a couple of large mail folders where
> > the color coding was quite important to me. I did not discover that
> > syncing was going to blow away all my color coding until my first
> > sync quite some number of days after installing claws-mail. At this
> > point the only way to maybe get my color coding back is to restore
> > from my last backup, which of course puts intervening e-mails at
> > risk of loss. Or revert to sylpheed and a backup from about that
> > era, which puts even more e-mails at risk.
> 
>   Well, I'd bet it's a unison problem, which is the one who's moving
> the files, but still not sure of understanding where the problem can
> be.

Except, as far as I can tell, the current unison very recently worked
with sylpheed, not to mention that it works with *all* of my other
applications.

Clayton


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