On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 21:48:27 -0400, Filipus Klutiero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Le dimanche 1 juillet 2007 20:49, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
>> On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 17:22:09 -0400, Filipus Klutiero
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said:
>> > Le dimanche 1 juillet 2007 16:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
>> >> On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 15:48:43 -0400, Filipus Klutiero
>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >
>> > said:
>> >> > Le samedi 30 juin 2007 19:09, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
>> >> >> On Sat, 19 May 2007 16:16:34 -0400, Filipus Klutiero
>> >> >>
>> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> >> >> > selinux-policy-refpolicy-targeted is priority standard, but
>> >> >> > it is unusual to be found without priority optional package
>> >> >> > checkpolicy. This means that default installations would be
>> >> >> > unusual.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would consider a standard only installation unusual, yes.
>> >> >
>> >> > If a default installation is unusual, is there any installation
>> >> > that you wouldn't consider unusual?
>> >>
>> >> How many machines running Debian have you seen with only standard
>> >> packages installed? The standard only install does not come with
>> >> X, gcc/apache. or any other server or user oriented software.
>> >
>> > You're the one that moved the discussion to installs with only
>> > standard packages. I am talking about default installations.
>>
>> Depends on what you mean by default here.
> I mean an install with the packages you get when installing Debian
> using the default answer for all prompts which can affect the packages
> that will be installed.
I do not recall if currently such an installation contains
anything out of optional or not. If not, then it is a pretty unusual
installation -- most people generally add other packages to the
standard ones to get a useable machine.
>> Since there are almost no real installation which are "just" the
>> default install, I would consider the "default" install unusual, yes.
> OK, so, again, is there any installation that you wouldn't consider
> unusual?
> In any case, I'm not going to spend more time arguing this. APT should
> soon start to install recommendations by default. If, as the package's
> priority suggests, checkpolicy shouldn't be installed by default,
> please remove selinux-policy-refpolicy-targeted's recommendation of
> checkpolicy. If it is currently a bug that checkpolicy isn't installed
> in default installation, this should soon be fixed.
I think both the recommendation in reference policy, and the
priority of checkpolicy, are perfectly correct as they stand.
If apt starts installing recommendations by default, well, that
is the decision of apt maintainers, and would change the set of
packages that show up in the default install. I fail to see why that
change in the set of packages is a bug in anything other package,
except, perhaps, apt.
manoj
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