Hello, On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:07:59PM +0100, Robert Millan [ackstorm] wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 12:44:18PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 12:24:09PM +0100, Robert Millan [ackstorm] wrote: > > [...] > > > Could we keep accelerated mode as default, but try to arrange it in a way > > > that > > > the novice user can easily choose x11 with software scaling if she wants > > > that? > > > > Making things easier is never a fault, though 2 comments on your special > > situation: > > 1) Xgl at least solves both the positioning and screenshot problem by > > emulating > > XVideo via OpenGL, which is the only sane way to support xv-only > > applications > > properly on a 3D desktop. It is not a real option on old hardware > > though. > > 2) If available, -vo gl or even better -vo gl:yuv=2 or even -vo > > gl:yuv=2:lscale=1 is a much better choice than x11. > > It can support vsync, hardware scaling and even hardware colorspace > > conversion and in the last example even much higher-quality scaling, > > given your hardware and drivers are good enough (which basically is the > > main problem with it). > > Xgl is not in debian, and installing it in etch is a major headache (check > the ITP).
I wasn't suggesting to use Xgl, I was just explaining what it does and stating that I think this is the only sane way to handle the XVideo problems with 3D Desktops at least in the long term. > I don't think we should care about this now, since any user who spends several > hours to install Xgl in etch can spare a few seconds to adjust mplayer. > > How about adding a "quick and easy" question that offers software mode for > etch, and then figuring out an Xgl-aware layout for lenny ? Huh?? I was basically saying that Xgl does not have any of these problems at all (it does create some problems with older 3D cards). And the second part was saying that for the 3D-Desktop case -vo gl should be a better choice than -vo x11 (whether Xgl or whatever else you use). Greetings, Reimar Döffinger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
