* Kurt Roeckx > -b means always step, -B means slew, and you asked for -B before?
Ranked in order of preference (as defaults, at least): 1) No gratuitous clock adjustments whatsoever (no if-up.d script) 2) No gratuitous clock stepping whatsoever (use of -B) 3) No gratituous clock stepping unless large offset (default ntpdate) 4) Gratituous clock stepping (use of -b) Ubuntu went with #4 for their Dapper release. > It now seems to be using -b if it's a static interfacce. Do you mean "a interface not using DHCP" here? If so I wonder what that has got to with anything... > ntpdate shouldn't be changing time when ntpd is running, and ntp > doesn't get restrarted by default, so I guess I'm still not getting > it. If the scripts turns into a no-op when ntpd is installed I have no objection to it (although I really think -b isn't called for in any case). That didn't happen in Ubuntu though... All I'm asking is that if you implement something similar in Debian, please be more careful then they were. Clock stepping is _dangerous_ and should IMO be done only as the system is brought up, and especially not as a result of fiddling with something that one would think is completely unrelated to system time, such as network interfaces. Regards -- Tore Anderson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]