Szaka wrote: "pointless to empty journal if clean"... It is NOT pointless to empty. I think you do not understand how journalling in Windows works (or I don't understand it... (-;). My understanding is that regardless whether the journal is clean or not Windows can/will parse the journal (at least in some cases, depends on the exact state of the journal) and redo various things/undo others as parts of its journalling startup. Normally this has no effect as it just writes the same data over the existing data (unless a weird crash occurred in which case it will repair the volume). However when you have modified the volume underneath with another ntfs driver or with ntfsresize or whatever, then doing such redo/undo operations are fatal. Well they can be fatal anyway. I guess in most cases they will silently corrupt stuff that one will not know about or even just write over now random locations on disk. The problem is this is totally unpredictable. The only way to make not emptying the journal safe is to do journalling and keep the journal uptodate. But none of us know how to do that so we better empty it to make sure everything is ok...
Best regards, Anton -- Anton Altaparmakov <aia21 at cam.ac.uk> (replace at with @) Unix Support, Computing Service, University of Cambridge, CB2 3QH, UK Linux NTFS maintainer, http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]