On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:21:07 +1100, psz  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 

> Brendan O'Dea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Your argument is that exporting a writable / or /usr via NFS
>> exposes you to possible exploits?  Then DON'T DO THAT.

> and Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> ... majority do not NFS export /usr/local ...

> Sorry, but that is not the issue. The attacked machine would not be
> an exporter, but a mounter of user files.

        Umm. The exporter is the one that got attacked, since it has
 the data. every other user that mounts the file system is collateral
 damage. 

> Suppose I have a bunch of machines, that "share" user files: all
> NFS-mount /users (containing user home directories
> /users/*). Getting root on any one of this bunch of machines would
> allow me to create a setgid-staff file; or maybe I could mess around
> with the .bashrc of a user in group staff.

        I think you did not bother to read my response, since I
 explicitly stated that there is no reason to have /home writable by
 user staff.

> Arguments about exports with squash_gids are moot: many NFS
> exporters do not have that option; and non-Debian exporters would
> not know or care about group staff.

        Umm, non-debian exporters are not covered by policy, and thus
 we do not care about them.  And since this is not a client side thing
 at all, this line of argument is just noise.

        I do not see this email in any way pointing to a valid flaw in
 my summary.

        manoj
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Manoj Srivastava   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/>
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