Sorry for my first scream, please. It was shock for me.

On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 11:36:53PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
> Hi Oleg,
> 
> I agree with you that the current quotes are irritating but I also
> think we have to follow the standards.  Because of that I don't have a
> strong opinion about the quotes.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 09:21:13PM +0200, you wrote:
> > 
> > The most funny thing about standards is that there are meny to
> > choose from, even for very narrow tech. or software field. Even zoo
> > of KOI encodings shows that.
> 
> Yes, there is a zoo of KOI encodings.  What is relevant in our case
> however is that there are RFC documents that describe precisely KOI8-R
> and KOI8-U and we have to follow these documents.
> 
> > Thus, in case of cyrillic fonts for (text) console, i think *best
> > practice* is in case. Man pages, info manuals are using old `,' as
> > single quotes, and nobody going to change that.  groff in utf-8
> > console will, but this is very special case.
> 
> It would be too bad if you are right here.  Of course I can not be
> sure, but I don't want to belive that all these programs are not going
> to be fixed to respect the standards.

If seems to me, that they (man, info) had to have quotes in respect to
formal writing and printed typography English:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_quotes#Quotation_marks_in_English>

ASCII didn't give that, thus, hackers had have to hack that. IMHO, industry
of typography wasn't in rat race (zoo) of hardware, standards, whatever, that
computer's market (well, industry) had (in 70-80, XX). Use of MIME to have
such thing with current standards and fonts isn't a choice. As far as i can
tell, most Linux kernel developers use pine and mutt (no mime, no attachemnts). 
It's sad, that that race ended in such a stupid hegemony, we (linux-gnu)
trying to overcome.

But anyway, history is something we can't fix and *must not to forget*.
I would love to have debconf option to choose historic-ASCII fonts with
right single quotes. I'm not an experienced DD, but i can try to help with this.

Yours sincerely.


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