On Sep 21, 2006, at 5:47 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

Again, check the package in unstable.  That's the direction.

Thanks for the pointer.

I've looked at the ntpdate_4.2.2+dfsg.2-2 stuff now, and I have a couple of comments on that.

        The first is just an extension of this original bug-report:

It does not make sense to use the "-s" option with ntpdate before syslogd has been started. The if-up.d stuff will most commonly be run during system initialization. The order of things in /etc/rcS.d is such that the network initialization will occur before starting syslogd (as it must, if syslog is redirected to another host).

But on the other hand, it does make sense to use the "-s" option if ntpdate is being called after syslogd is started -- as, for example, when bringing up a new network interface without a reboot.

So the logic in /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate needs to be a bit like the login in the old /etc/init.d/ntpdate in that it knows whether it's being called as part of system initialization or on-the-fly after initialization.


        The second has to do with interaction of ntpdate with the ntp daemon:

Maybe I've missed something, but i see no code that makes sure the ntp daemon is stopped when running ntpdate. My experience is that a running ntpd can get badly confused if you run ntpdate at the same time.

Maybe the logic is that, now that ntpd can handle it's own clock startup, there's no need to have the two packages installed at the same time? If so, would it be desirable to have them officially conflict?


Enjoy!

Rick



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