Ah ha, when firefox browses a pdf, then pstree can't see it. $ ps -e|grep xpdf 2507 ? 00:00:01 xpdf.bin And $ pstree -plA |-xcinterm-big5(2349)---crxvt-big5(2350)---bash(2351)---pstree(2524) `-xdm(2207)-+-XFree86(2221) `-xdm(2222)---sh(2247)-+-icewm(2300) |-sh(2294)---firefox-bin(2357) |-sh(2298)---emacs(2365)-+-emacsserver(2376) $ pstree -plA|grep 2507 $
C> Is there something unusual about the kernel you are running? 2.6.8-2-k7 C> Can you send me the stat and status files of one of the xpdf processes, $ more /proc/2507/stat*|cat :::::::::::::: /proc/2507/stat :::::::::::::: 2507 (xpdf.bin) S 2506 2247 2207 0 -1 0 22986 0 1 0 144 54 0 0 16 0 1 0 153256 22642688 2286 4294967295 134512640 135243276 3221224080 3221223024 1079579832 0 0 4096 0 0 0 0 17 0 0 0 :::::::::::::: /proc/2507/statm :::::::::::::: 5528 2286 4345 222 0 5306 0 :::::::::::::: /proc/2507/status :::::::::::::: Name: xpdf.bin State: S (sleeping) SleepAVG: 90% Tgid: 2507 Pid: 2507 PPid: 2506 TracerPid: 0 Uid: 1000 1000 1000 1000 Gid: 1000 1000 1000 1000 FDSize: 256 Groups: 20 24 29 1000 1004 VmSize: 22112 kB VmLck: 0 kB VmRSS: 9144 kB VmData: 4696 kB VmStk: 36 kB VmExe: 716 kB VmLib: 5972 kB Threads: 1 SigPnd: 0000000000000000 ShdPnd: 0000000000000000 SigBlk: 0000000000000000 SigIgn: 0000000000001000 SigCgt: 0000000000000000 CapInh: 0000000000000000 CapPrm: 0000000000000000 CapEff: 0000000000000000 C> someone suggested you may have a terminal with not many columns and the C> xpdf was found "off the screen". hurmf. P.S., $ head /proc/2506/status Name: firefox-bin State: S (sleeping) SleepAVG: 79% Tgid: 2357 Pid: 2506 PPid: 2357 $ xpdf & #start another $ ps -e|grep xpdf 2507 ? 00:00:01 xpdf.bin 2540 pts/0 00:00:00 xpdf.bin $ pstree -plA|grep xpdf | `-xpdf.bin(2540) $ ls /proc/2507/fd/ /proc/2540/fd/ /proc/2507/fd/: 0 10 12 14 17 19 20 22 24 26 3 5 7 1 11 13 15 18 2 21 23 25 27 4 6 8 /proc/2540/fd/: 0 1 2 3 $ ls /proc/2540/fd/[0-3] -og lrwx------ 1 64 2005-03-09 23:55 /proc/2540/fd/0 -> /dev/pts/0 lrwx------ 1 64 2005-03-09 23:55 /proc/2540/fd/1 -> /dev/pts/0 lrwx------ 1 64 2005-03-09 23:52 /proc/2540/fd/2 -> /dev/pts/0 lrwx------ 1 64 2005-03-09 23:55 /proc/2540/fd/3 -> socket:[14302] $ ls /proc/2507/fd/[0-3] -og lr-x------ 1 64 2005-03-09 23:54 /proc/2507/fd/0 -> /dev/null l-wx------ 1 64 2005-03-09 23:54 /proc/2507/fd/1 -> /home/jidanni/.xsession-errors l-wx------ 1 64 2005-03-09 23:54 /proc/2507/fd/2 -> /home/jidanni/.xsession-errors lrwx------ 1 64 2005-03-09 23:54 /proc/2507/fd/3 -> socket:[11013] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]