Andree Leidenfrost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi Rich,
>
> On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 19:28 +0100, Rich Walker wrote:
>> Andree Leidenfrost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> > Hi Rich,
>> >
>> > On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 15:32 +0100, Rich Walker wrote:
>> >> [...]
>> >> >> The machine in question has 2GB of ram, and is currently running at a
>> >> >> load of 4.6, and around 100% CPU usage.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> The main mondoarchive process is using 617MB of virtual memory, of 
>> >> >> which
>> >> >> 252MB is swapped out.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> It has now been running for a few days (984minutes CPU time), and is
>> >> >> assembling DVD #5. The "Time remaining" indicator is -14331:-52 !
>
> Looks like there is definitely something wrong with the "Time remaining"
> indicator. I'll see whether I can look into this.

I'm guessing it's wrapping :->

>
>> >> > What is the load and memory usage _without_ mondoarchive running? What
>> >> > CPU is this? Also, what version of mindi and mondo are you running
>> >> > currently?
>> >> 
>> >> Still fairly heavy. At present, it's 
>> >> top - 15:24:20 up 30 days,  2:24,  6 users,  load average: 2.07, 3.41, 
>> >> 3.98
>> >> Tasks: 277 total,   1 running, 275 sleeping,   1 stopped,   0 zombie
>> >> Cpu(s): 14.5% us,  7.2% sy,  0.0% ni, 74.0% id,  3.0% wa,  0.3% hi,  1.0% 
>> >> si
>> >> Mem:   2077192k total,  2021348k used,    55844k free,    38432k buffers
>> >> Swap:  1919548k total,  1226364k used,   693184k free,  1042008k cached
>> >
>> > Hm, it's using quite some swap but not too much CPU. Why is the load so
>> > high if CPU usage is quite low (or is this just the snapshot)?
>> 
>> Load is high on that machine for a variety of reasons. Typically it's
>> supporting 4 or 5 users with VNC and direct logins.
>
> Well, if load is high, mondoarchive will take longer to run.

We've got plenty of idle CPU horsepower, so it shouldn't be a problem.

>
>> > Also, what type of CPU, how many, what frequency would be good to know.
>> 
>> Athlon *somethingorother* with a 1.3GHz clock.
>
> So, that's an Athlon XP then. That is not very fast at all.

*Calibration error*

If a 1.3 GHz CPU isn't suitable for the program, then it *really* ought
to say something in the descriptive text :->

>
>> [...]
>> > Cool. Also you may want to try without compression '-0'.
>> 
>> Does it still compress the attribute files if compression is turned off?
>
> Removing attr and acl should keep this files from being created in the
> first place (unless I am mistaken). Otherwise I believe that -0 only
> turns compression of the afio files of. You may want to try though.

Removing the attribute files seems to have sped things up considerably.

>
>> Also, the process of sorting out the files before it even gets to the
>> DVD stage takes hours as well...
>
> Well, it needs to compile the list of files to archive, if the machine
> is flat out and it's a lot of stuff to comb through, it will take a long
> time. Basically you have a low spec system with high load and you want
> to archive a lot of data/files. mondoarchive will take a long time to
> run, this as such is not a bug.

If I was running this on a pentium-I, I'd accept that argument :->

At the moment, mondoarchive does take a phenomenally long time to
archive a few hundred thousand files. Removing the extended attribute
handling makes a big difference! I suggest that describing it as a
general-purpose backup solution is a bit misleading, and noting the
attribute handling->slowdown "feature" might be useful.

>
> You may be better off with what I suggested in my original response to
> your bug report:
>
>>>>>
> From the logs, I can see that mondoarchive thinks it will need 35 DVDs
> to back up your data, which is approximately 150GB. Mondo Rescue is
> really more of a disaster recovery tool rather than a backup utility. 
>
> So, in general, what I would suggest is that you use Mondo Rescue for
> backing up your system only so that you have bootable restore media but
> that you use a normal backup tool to backup your actual data. (You may
> bascially want to add /big to your -E parameter.)
> <<<<

Well, I'd quite like a bare-metal recovery solution :->

I accept that Mondo isn't up to the job, though.

cheers, Rich.

>
> What do you think?
>
> Best regards,
> Andree
>
>> [...]
> -- 
> Andree Leidenfrost
> Sydney - Australia
>
>

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