Hello, I think that flame war is not very productive. I have some remarks and a plea.
Is RTFM to print to a simple parallel printer a answer that will satisfy users? I am quite sure its not. As a user I expect that printing to a parallel printer just has to work when it has been configured once. And configuring the printer does not have to require adding modules to /etc/modules. Right now I have to do the following to be able to print: 1) Add this to /etc/modules: parport_pc lp Yes, udev (0.093-1) doesn't even detect the parport in my IBM ThinkPad T23 anymore! I remember a time where I already used udev and those lines both were not required. 2) I have to manually restart the printer in CUPS. 3) But thats not enough. I also have to change the rights for /dev/lp0 (http://bugs.debian.org/378147) 4) And fix KDE (http://bugs.debian.org/373720). Fortunately only once. 5) And the printer configuration for CUPS (http://bugs.debian.org/373722). Fortunately also only once. Thats absolutely ridiculous for a stable Debian release. Right now it isn't yet marked stable but as I understand its stearing towards a release. If it remains that way until its released in Etch it is a clear statement: "Desktop user, keep out of here! Only use Debian when you are a real geek..." Is that want you want to achieve? As a user I couldn't care less about how printing works - I just want that it works. Out of the box. I now spent again almost one hour to print a single sheet of paper - once again - and its not that I haven't enough other stuff to do. I know thats the price for using Debian Testing/Unstable at times. But it should not be the price for using Debian Stable as otherwise I can understand everyone who switches to a distribution where it just works. Right now printing in Debian Etch/Sid is *fundamentally* broken in several areas at once. Until Stable it needs to be fixed! So please, Marco, consider making parallel printing work out of the box with udev. I always thought that udev was meant to make things work out of the box and not to complicate things that worked before (like /dev/lp0 in a static /dev). I will happily test any changes that go in the direction of making it just work. Regards, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7
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