Hi

On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 06:33:09PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> We have plans to remove support for displaying notes from debconf, since
> the vast majority of all debconf notes are inappropriate use of debconf.
> From what I can see, harden's notes fall into that category, though on
> the edge between appropriate and inappropriate use.

I know that I'm on the edge... :)

> Work toward this goal so far has consisted of:
> 
> - Developing NEWS.Debian support, which eliminated 90% of the appropriate
>   use of debconf notes.
Not applicable in this case.

> - Adding support for proper error templates in debconf, for the packages
>   that need to use debconf to warn about an error condition.
This is probably now an error condidion...

> - Removing support for emailing unseen notes, since it was getting
>   annoying to have all these useless low priority notes[1] cluttering up
>   mailboxes.
I agree that this is a good thing.

> The current status is that I am aware of one completly legitimate use of
> debconf notes (the note displayed by nobootloader in d-i on systems that
> have no bootloader and need manual configuration to boot). This is the
> only thing blocking complete removal of support for displaying notes
> from debconf. 

Ok.

> I expect we will find a solution to that and I'd encourage you to find
> some way more appropriate to get your information to the user than
> debconf notes. I suspect there are lots of possibilities you may have
> not considered. For example, have you ever thought about making harden
> run as a cron job and send email if it detects a new condition that the
> user should be warned about, such as the user installing a new server that
> needs to be hardened. Anyway, please consider debconf notes as something
> that may stop being displayed at any time.

Thanks for letting me know. I think a cron-job is even more annoying in this
case as it is very hard to detect if the current setting is legitimate or
not.

They are not extremely important, so if they are removed that is ok to me
but I would prefer to have them there if possible.

Regards,

// Ola

> -- 
> see shy jo
> 
> [1] Getting mailed a note saying "welcome to the configuration of
>     package foo" that you only see when you check the mail later is
>     a classic example of this.



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