Hi Mark, Quoting Mark Hindley (2026-03-27 20:49:05) > On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 08:54:49AM +0100, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues > wrote: > > This is not possible if the system on the outside has systemd installed > > because that conflicts with insserv and according to Michael Biebl this is > > not going to change. > > My preference is that the systemd conflicts with insserv should be removed. > You > have a reasonable usage case for coinstalling insserv with systemd. The > conflicts also causes autopkgest failures on ci.d.o for startpar, openrc and > insserv itself as systemd cannot be uninstalled from the autopkgtest testbed. > > The conflicts was added to avoid interactions between systemd, initscripts and > insserv, however support for LSB initscripts in systemd has now been removed > and > I find it unlikely that #1072562 or similar would still be issue even if > initscripts and insserv were installed on a systemd system. If I am wrong in > my analysis here, I would be happy to be pointed to a reproducer for such an > issue.
do you want to bring this up with systemd maintainers? I'm not sure whether I have enough energy right now to challenge the strong position on that topic which I felt Michael Biebl seems to have when we talked in #debian-devel about that topic. Thanks! cheers, josch
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