Joost van =?utf-8?Q?Baal-Ili=C4=87?= <[email protected]> writes:
>> I've taken a look at this package as found at
>> https://salsa.debian.org/debian/publicfile/-/tree/debian/0.52-13?ref_type=tags
>> and wanted to share my thoughts on it with you:
>> 
>> 
>> nothing in the source code contains any copyright statement. I do see
>> that https://cr.yp.to/distributors.html places publicfile 0.5.2 with the
>> sha256 checksum
>> 3f9fcf737bfe48910812cc357a31bf1f2e3da2490dbd175ce535830f251c08ef into
>> the public domain, and I wish that was clearly visible in the tarball.
>
> That would've been better indeed.  Otoh I guess we can live with the current
> situation, and I'd feel embarrased to ask the author to release a new tarball
> after all these years...

I wonder why "after all these years" nobody stepped up and decided to
continue development? Surely, we all want well-maintained software that
keeps up with the many changes in requirements and infrastructure
modernizations these days, no?

>> In debian/copyright, I see a statement to debian/patches/errno.patch
>> that attributes the copyright to [email protected]. I see two issues with that:
>> a) you cannot assign a copyright to an email address. It needs to be a
>> person or similar b) the comment below then claims that this patch
>> wasn't subject to copyright law. That's a bold statement and unlikely to
>> be true given how many jurisdictions we have on this planet.
>> 
>> Please ask the original author(s) of the patch about the licensing
>> terms, and suggest public domain. Do copy their response in
>> debian/copyright as appropriate.
>
> The patch contains of 3 lines of code, of which 2 are the same.  I believe one
> could make a good point argueing the patch is so small it isn't copyrightable?
> That's what I was trying to do in d/copyright.  With
>
>  Copyright: 2002 [email protected]
>
> I was trying to express the contact info for the patch is [email protected], and it 
> was
> published in 2002.

I understand what you are trying to do, I'm concerned that the wording
of the debian/copyright file as it is right now can be misconstrued and
become a problem for Debian in the future.

>> I would recommend to REJECT this package until the licencing terms of
>> the patches are clarified.
>
> Actually, the situation with debian/patches/filetype.patch is tricky.
> I am considering contacting the author of that one (with me luck...)
> See d/copyright and d/changelog for details.
>
>> On a personal note? Do you expect further updates and releases of
>> publicfile?  How frequently do you expect them to happen, and what
>> licensing terms do you expect them to be placed on?
>
> No, I don't expect any further upstream updates.  I plan to keep
> adjusting the software so that it keeps running fine on Debian.

Have you considered just declaring yourself as the new upstream, and
relicense the 0.5.2 version under a proper license, such as BSD or
Expat? (If upstream were active, one could call that a "fork", not sure
that'd be an accurate depiction here). I honestly think that would be so
much clearer from a license review standpoint, and also for you as
prospective maintainer.

My main concern right now with those patches is that their license is
very unclear. As (new) upstream author, I would not accept them as is,
but ask contributors to be explicit about the redistribution terms.

For the Debian project, I would find such a "forked" package much more
valuable as it avoids unclear licensing terms, and conveys a strong
message around commitment on the package.

What do you think?

-rt

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