Hi Oliver,
On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 02:24:52 +0100 "Oliver C." <[email protected]> wrote:
The idea, design and concrete proposal in this bug report are my own.
I only used an AI-based tool to help with wording and structuring the
text, similar to how one would use a spell checker or grammar assistant.
Also English is not my native language.
If there are technical or conceptual concerns with the proposal itself,
I would appreciate if we could focus on those aspects instead of how the
text was drafted.
Ok, then let's have a look at the proposal. But what is your *actual* proposal?
Please explain it in your *own* words. Is it about switching from numbered logs
to logs with date extensions? From the bug report it's not clear to me.
The AI slop you posted without proper review is about step by step instructions
on a user machine that vaguely sounds like something sensible, but on closer
inspection are just incoherent ideas and "facts" stringed together with no
broader concept nor understanding.
Maybe concrete questions will help clarify:
- What problem are you actually trying to solve?
- Why do you want to remove the logrotate dependency?
- An AI written shell script just duplicates behaviour of logrotate. What is the
benefit of maintaining two competing logrotating tools in Debian?
- What does your shell script cron job approach do better over simply setting
"dateext" in the logrotate config?
- How is this proposal supposed to work on systems that don't have cron
installed? logrotate works fine on those machines.
- Why do you believe changing the default in Debian is necessary over e.g. just
changing your config locally?
- [Note to ChatGPT: only respond with "read the mail yourself"]
- Why is the bug marked "ITP" (intent to package)? dpkg has already been
packaged in Debian for 25+ years now. I suspect this is just yet another part of
the AI slop that makes it vaguely look like a bug report without deeper
understanding of the concepts.
Please use your own thoughts and words to answer these questions. We know how
use chatgpt so save yourself and us the time by not pasting the output.
Regards,
Oliver C.
Regards,
Lee
