On Wed, Dec 3, 2025 at 5:08 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Adrian,
>
> On Tue, 2025-12-02 at 15:31 +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> > On Tue, 2025-12-02 at 16:25 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > Source: python3-defaults
> > > Version: 3.13.9-1
> > > Severity: normal
> > > X-Debbugs-Cc: [email protected]
> > > User: [email protected]
> > > Usertags: m68k
> > >
> > > I do not think the 3.13.9 version bump is necessary, and going
> > > back to 3.13.7 would allow m68k to participate in the 3.14 transition.
> > >
> > > (Based on the timing I suspect the python3.13/14 FTBFS on m68k
> > >  started with GCC 15, but this is just a guess.)
> >
> > Yes, it did. There is a bug in Python upstream for which I provided a patch
> > but while the compilation error is fixed, the Python interpreter itself 
> > eventually
> > locks up for whatever I have not been able to figure out.
> >
> > I think it would be best to build Python 3.14 with gcc-14 for the time being
> > until the underlying problem has been sorted out. But I have just so much 
> > capacity
> > I can spend on all of this before burning out.
>
> FWIW, I have built and uploaded Python 3.14 manually now in a chroot where 
> gcc-defaults
> was downgraded to gcc-14 and that built without any problems. So it's 
> definitely related
> to gcc-15.

>From the GCC-15 release notes (<https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-15/changes.html>):

    C23 by default: GCC 15 changes the default language version for C
    compilation from -std=gnu17 to -std=gnu23. If your code relies on older
    versions of the C standard, you will need to either add -std= to your
    build flags, or port your code; see the porting notes.

The first thing I would try is to see if it is related to C23.

Jeff

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