Greetings,

Yes, test machines included a FX-9590 + 990FX, Threadripper 2990WX + X399, etc, the problem happens on any linux kernel, any distro, so I've learned this is not Debian specific now. I can still try to get a full log if that will help, but not for some days, but I believe I have this bug that had already been reported upstream, which I did not find at first:

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217510

Regarding the ath12k driver - in the specific Zenith Extreme Alpha system I initially discovered this problem on, I replaced the stock Intel AC wireless with a Qualcomm BE wireless. It shows those errors, but it does work, so I have ignored them. Those errors remain with or without the sound card, and are unrelated.

Debian works flawlessly when the card is not present. If more information will help, I'm happy to try to provide it, but if this is a matter for upstream, perhaps I simply need to wait?

Regards,
David Chalmers

On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 17:01:29 +0200 Uwe =?utf-8?Q?Kleine-K=C3=B6nig?= <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello David,
>
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2025 at 05:36:38PM +1030, David Chalmers wrote:
> > no, a normal kernel doesnt work any better. ive tried this on a couple of > > different machines, the ae-7 just hangs in all of them. other sound cards,
> > including previous creative ones, work just fine.
>
> Just to make sure I understood you correctly: So you plug the
> problematic hardware into different machines and the problems then
> appear on each of them, right? Do you have more than one physical card
> to rule out a hardware defect?
>
> Also there were problems e.g. in the ath12k driver. I assume these are
> gone, too, when the sound card isn't asembled in the machine?
>
> Could you try to provide a complete kernel log with the card? If you
> don't find a better way, record the boot process on video, maybe with
> boot_delay=100 to make the output a bit slower.
>
> Best regards
> Uwe

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