Hi,

On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 9:07 AM Simon Richter <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 8/26/25 23:45, Tz-Huan Huang wrote:
>
> >     since the trixie upgrade, I find that applications using input
> methods
> >     often hang until I run "killall -9 scim-panel-gtk". Normal SIGTERM is
> >     not sufficient.
>
> >    - SCIM is too X11-specific, so use X11 instead of Wayland (e.g., log
> > in with "GNOME on Xorg").
>
> This is not a GNOME session, but normal X11 started via startx running
> the Xsession script.
>

Good, so it's not the wayland issue for your case.


> >    - scim-panel-gtk seems to cause issues in daemon mode. Try launching
> > it without daemon mode.
>
> According to pstree, it's not running in daemon mode:
>
>    ├─scim-helper-man
>    ├─scim-im-agent
>    ├─scim-launcher -d -c simple -e all -f socket --no-stay
>    ├─scim-launcher -d -c socket -e socket -f x11
>    ├─scim-panel-gtk --no-stay --display :0.0 -c socket -d
>

           ^^^^^

-d means daemon mode. Please try to launch scim-panel-gtk explicitly before
scim-helper-manager launched,
or scim-helper-manager will launch scim-panel-gtk in daemon mode
automatically (it's hard-coded in the source).

scim-helper-manager will be launched when scim immodule (im-scim.so) is
loaded,
so you might try to find the right point (after starting x11 but before
loading the scim immodule) to launch scim-panel-gtk explicitly.

Thanks,
Tz-Huan

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