Hi Bernd,

So just in regards this question:

* did you install open-vm-tools-desktop? if not, do it.

What happens is when I install Trixie via the iso both 'open-vm-tools' and 
'open-vm-tools-desktop' are both installed automatically. I can then break the 
desktop with those 2 installed.

I then purge 'open-vm-tools' and 'open-vm-tools-desktop' and reboot Trixie to 
see if they are causing the issue and once again I can break the desktop. This 
maybe suggests it's not a VMWare tools issue but hard to know as the logs 
aren't giving me much info to be honest.

I just made it break again at 'Jul 16 11:02' below where I have made the gap in 
the logs and as you can see it is still running in the background even now, but 
I can't access the desktop or another tty in Trixie. Hope this helps.

david@debian:~$ sudo journalctl -f
[sudo] password for david: 
Jul 16 11:00:58 debian systemd[1]: user-106.slice: Consumed 1.594s CPU time, 
98.6M memory peak.
Jul 16 11:01:10 debian systemd-timesyncd[349]: Contacted time server 
85.199.214.99:123 (2.debian.pool.ntp.org).
Jul 16 11:01:10 debian systemd-timesyncd[349]: Initial clock synchronization to 
Wed 2025-07-16 11:01:10.585010 BST.
Jul 16 11:01:11 debian systemd[1]: systemd-hostnamed.service: Deactivated 
successfully.
Jul 16 11:01:38 debian sshd-session[1321]: Accepted password for david from 
192.168.0.203 port 33638 ssh2
Jul 16 11:01:38 debian sshd-session[1321]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session 
opened for user david(uid=1000) by david(uid=0)
Jul 16 11:01:38 debian systemd-logind[738]: New session 4 of user david.
Jul 16 11:01:38 debian systemd[1]: Started session-4.scope - Session 4 of User 
david.
Jul 16 11:01:52 debian sudo[1336]:    david : TTY=pts/1 ; PWD=/home/david ; 
USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/journalctl -f
Jul 16 11:01:52 debian sudo[1336]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session opened for 
user root(uid=0) by david(uid=1000)
Jul 16 11:02:23 debian systemd[1]: Starting apt-daily-upgrade.service - Daily 
apt upgrade and clean activities...
Jul 16 11:02:24 debian systemd[1]: apt-daily-upgrade.service: Deactivated 
successfully.
Jul 16 11:02:24 debian systemd[1]: Finished apt-daily-upgrade.service - Daily 
apt upgrade and clean activities.


Jul 16 11:09:57 debian systemd-timesyncd[349]: Timed out waiting for reply from 
85.199.214.99:123 (2.debian.pool.ntp.org).
Jul 16 11:09:57 debian systemd-timesyncd[349]: Contacted time server 
176.58.115.34:123 (2.debian.pool.ntp.org).
Jul 16 11:15:59 debian systemd[1]: Starting systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service - 
Cleanup of Temporary Directories...
Jul 16 11:15:59 debian systemd-tmpfiles[1417]: 
/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/legacy.conf:14: Duplicate line for path "/run/lock", 
ignoring.
Jul 16 11:15:59 debian systemd[1]: systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service: Deactivated 
successfully.
Jul 16 11:15:59 debian systemd[1]: Finished systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service - 
Cleanup of Temporary Directories.
Jul 16 11:17:01 debian CRON[1422]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for 
user root(uid=0) by root(uid=0)
Jul 16 11:17:01 debian CRON[1424]: (root) CMD (cd / && run-parts --report 
/etc/cron.hourly)
Jul 16 11:17:01 debian CRON[1422]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for 
user root
Jul 16 11:17:29 debian systemd[1]: Starting fstrim.service - Discard unused 
blocks on filesystems from /etc/fstab...
Jul 16 11:17:29 debian systemd[1]: fstrim.service: Deactivated successfully.
Jul 16 11:17:29 debian systemd[1]: Finished fstrim.service - Discard unused 
blocks on filesystems from /etc/fstab.
Jul 16 11:30:01 debian CRON[1435]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for 
user root(uid=0) by root(uid=0)
Jul 16 11:30:01 debian CRON[1437]: (root) CMD (if [ -x /etc/init.d/anacron ] && 
! [ -d /run/systemd/system ]; then exec /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d anacron start 
>/dev/null; fi)
Jul 16 11:30:01 debian CRON[1435]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for 
user root
Jul 16 11:31:23 debian systemd[1]: Started anacron.service - Run anacron jobs.
Jul 16 11:31:23 debian anacron[1439]: Anacron 2.3 started on 2025-07-16
Jul 16 11:31:23 debian anacron[1439]: Normal exit (0 jobs run)
Jul 16 11:31:23 debian systemd[1]: anacron.service: Deactivated successfully.

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