Moin Tobias,

Thanks for acting on the bug.

On Thu, May 01, 2025 at 05:42:41PM +0200, Tobias Fiebig wrote:
> Moin,
> 
> Could you please elaborate on the decision to close this without
> reconsidering?
> 
> Essentially, the option to use a security feature is taken away from
> users (i.e., no option to enable it without rebuilding the kernel);
> 
> Not taking the option away from users would mean that those who would
> want to disable it would have to use an available sysctl.
> 
> To me, the latter sounds very much like an ideal scenario from a
> usability/security trade-off?

Let me try to be more verbose. There are the mentioned issues in the
bug which explain why in Debian the decision was to disable yama by
default (instead of having enabled it by default), which are related
to debugging. It does not mean that users cannot take advantage of the
Yama protection, but the sysctl know need to enable it. So it is just
hte other way around.

What I mean with not having reconsidered is that the potential change
has not made it to neither bookworm, nor trixie (to late now) and we
have not seen other real interest to have it reversed.

In the sense to finally clean up our longstanding bugs down I have
decided to close the bug, still with a clear note that if people feel
strong about the decision to reopen the bug with an expalnation on why
a particular feature is still desired (this time maybe for Debian
forky).

Hope this englights on the purpose of the bug closure.

Regards,
Salvatore

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