Hi Roland,

On 2025-04-01 16:55:26, Roland Gruber wrote:
Hi Peter,

Am 30.03.25 um 21:35 schrieb Peter Wienemann:
2. The copyright documentation in debian/copyright needs more work. Just by quickly skimming the files I found the following copyright owners which are not mentioned:

Only main authors are listed in the file. The authors listed by you did not contribute for about 20 years or more. Therefore, large parts of the code was already replaced. Also, people who contribute via PRs are not listed. But we keep their names in the source files to document the contributions.

Debian Policy 12.5 [0] says:

"A verbatim copy of the package’s copyright information is often required to be present in /usr/share/doc/PACKAGE/copyright, too; see Copyright considerations."

Checking the applicable licence for those files (GPL2+) [1], the licence states:

"You may copy and distribute verbatim copies of the Program's source code as you receive it, in any medium, provided that you conspicuously and appropriately publish on each copy an appropriate copyright notice and disclaimer of warranty; keep intact all the notices that refer to this License and to the absence of any warranty; and give any other recipients of the Program a copy of this License along with the Program."

My understanding of the above is that a _verbatim_ copy of the copyright information is required in the cases at hand.

While rereading the respective Debian Policy copyright section I noticed that another Policy requirement is missing in the copyright file:

"In addition, the copyright file must say where the upstream sources (if any) were obtained, and should include a name or contact address for the upstream authors."

can you provide more details what exactly you are missing in the copyright file? I did some updates, you can find the current version here:

https://github.com/LDAPAccountManager/lam/blob/develop/lam-packaging/ debian/copyright

sure.

Let me take some examples mentioned in my mail from March 23. Using DEP-5 format the following could be an excerpt from debian/copyright:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
[...]

Files: lib/modules/inetOrgPerson.inc
Copyright: 2003 - 2006  Tilo Lutz
           2005 - 2025  Roland Gruber
License: GPL2+

Files: lib/modules/posixGroup.inc
Copyright: 2003 - 2006  Tilo Lutz
           2007 - 2025  Roland Gruber
License: GPL2+

[...]

License: GPL2+
 This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
 it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
 the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
 (at your option) any later version.
 .
 This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
 but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
 MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
 GNU General Public License for more details.
 .
 You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
 along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
 Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA  02111-1307  USA
 .
 On Debian GNU/Linux systems, the complete text of the GNU General Public
 License can be found in /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

So it contains a verbatim copy of the copyright holders (as claimed in the original files) and the licence.

Assessing the upstream copyright claims is not the job of a package maintainer (maybe except in extreme cases). In particular a package maintainer must not restrict the list to e. g. the main authors or drop copyright holders who have not contributed in recent years.

I hope this helps to make my point clearer.

If you have further questions, do not hesitate to ask.

Best regards

Peter

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