Hi Simon, thanks, yes, this is the solution! -- double-yes, actually. Some details below:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 07:02:53PM +0000, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 at 14:59:52 +0100, msp wrote: > > When libgtk-4-1:amd64 is installed in version 4.17.4+ds-4, starting any > > programs depending on this package takes unusually long (up to minutes), > > sometimes causing the program to be unusable. > > On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 at 19:41:37 +0100, Markus Steinko wrote: > > I am facing the same bug on a Debian testing system, running Gnome. > > > > Many applications are just reacting very slow. Like gnome-terminal, > > gnome-settings, gnome-tweaks and the extension-manager. > > Are you perhaps both using the "GNOME on Xorg" session mode, instead of > the default "GNOME" session which is GNOME in Wayland mode? yes indeed, I use X11 (configured by setting WaylandEnable=false in /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf - because 'barrier' misbehaved last time I tried). Anyway: switching to wayland somewhat improves the situation, but not fully: The first (gtk/gnome?) program starting takes "ages" (30 s?) to start, other programs started successively do so in normal time. I tried this with gnome-terminal and, alternatively, libreoffice (however, I did not switch off signal auto-starting). This was before I did the upgrade suggested below (and confirmed by downgrading again to make sure). > Please try with xdg-desktop-gnome 47.2-2, which I recently uploaded to > unstable. That fixes an initialization problem with GTK 4.17.x which can > cause this symptom (#1096094). Yes, upgrading xdg-desktop-portal-gnome (I guess you meant that) and xdg-desktop-portal-gtk to 1.15.2-2 fully resolves the problem, both with x11 and with wayland. I can confirm that tbe behaviour was exactly as described in #1096094 (closing every instance and re-opening), although I did not iterate through all combinations (x11/wayland, closing all instances, ...) Thank you once more for having resolved this! best, msp > If that doesn't resolve the problem, please check the system log (systemd > Journal) for any error messages or crashes that appear there when you > log in, start one of the slow applications, and wait for it to start. > > Relevant documentation: > https://manpages.debian.org/testing/systemd/journalctl.1.en.html > > > Also some are loosing their dark-mode and turn back to light mode > > This is a less severe symptom than extremely slow startup, and might > not be closely related. If updating packages does not resolve that, > please report it as a separate bug, with details of some affected apps > and any error messages that appear in the systemd Journal. > > smcv -- Martin Meyerspeer <m....@mailbox.org> phone1: +43 (0)680 / 209 16 54 phone2: +43 (0)670 / 202 74 22