On Sun, Feb 09, 2025 at 01:01:08AM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2025 at 12:47:05PM +0000, Andrew Bower wrote:
> > I appreciate that the utmp-capable tooling has been removed from default
> > installations to avoid users being misled that they are appropriate for
> > administering current systems since the move to wtmpdb. However, I don't 
> > think
> > that is a reason why they should not be available in the archive at all.
> > 
> > I suspect there will be significant unsatisfied demand for tools in the next
> > stable release that are capable of reading log files previously populated 
> > with
> > information in utmp format.
> 
> I think this is misguided. trixie will be the release that underwent
> a very painful t64 transition so all software in it is supposed to
> continue working past year 2038. For the utmp format, this is AFAIK
> not the case.

I am aware of the transition; this suggestion is about tools to
interrogate extant files. I expect there will be some demand for them.

I noticed that wtmpdb upstream used the existence of utmpdump in Debian
as a reason why importing those files wasn't urgent, but that premise is
no longer true and yet there is no importer. I think users will be
avoidably disappointed.

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